> > "Funny, if you are getting > > DOSs'd or Spammed to hell, your ISP won't budge to fix it > but, the MPAA > > sends one letter and they threaten to cut you (the customer) off." Note: the client is being DOSs'ed or Spammed, not the client being the instigator of the activity. I worked with safemode.org for 2+ years, during that time we had many DOS problems that our ISP would not help us with, but each time someone wanted a mirror removed from our site we ended up getting kicked from our ISP. Bottom-line, if you have the cash you can do what you want. As much as many of us hate it the internet has become a place of corporations. Many times I enjoy reading about companies losing millions to hackers or pirates, stay of our internet, we liked it just fine before you bought your way in. </RANT> Mystakill. > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven J. Sobol [mailto:sjsobolat_private] > Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 3:12 PM > To: Vinnie Lima > Cc: Vachon, Scott; vuln-devat_private > Subject: RE: [7.8.2002 44916] Notice of Copyright Infringement > > > On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Vinnie Lima wrote: > > > > > "Funny, if you are getting > > DOSs'd or Spammed to hell, your ISP won't budge to fix it > but, the MPAA > > sends one letter and they threaten to cut you (the customer) off." > > > > Isnt within the ISP's rights to require a SUBPOENA to do > any intrusive > > action including, but not limited to, shutting off a user's > service? Or has > > the new Digital Millenium Act supersedes that right? > > As far as I know, no. If I determine you spammed or DOS'd > someone from a > DSL or dialup account you pay me for, no, I wouldn't > typically demand a > subpoena from the complainant. If I'm smart, I will exercise due > dilligence in making damned sure that you *did* violate my > policies, but > checking my own server logs doesn't require a subpoena either. > > You're thinking of times when someone demands information > about a specific > subscriber - in that case, unless the service provider is a > flaming idiot, > they will not give out any info about who the subscriber is, > etc., without > a subpoena. But the decision to terminate service doesn't require the > release of any of your personal information to third parties. > > **SJS (speaking as a service provider) > > -- > Steve Sobol, CTO JustThe.net LLC, Mentor On The Lake, OH > 888.480.4NET > - I do my best work with one of my cockatiels sitting on each > shoulder - > 6/4/02:A USA TODAY poll found that 80% of Catholics advocated > a zero-tolerance > stance towards abusive priests. The fact that 20% didn't, scares me... > >
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