UFO Magazine; Volume 16 No. 6, pages 57-59: Person to Person II: Part two of an Interview with Gregory M. Kanon. (snips) GMK: Much was made of the fact that a "UFO" was seen over New York Power Authority's substation at Clay, N.Y. during the Great Blackout. Many UFO authors' have asserted a likely link between the sighting and the blackout. It must have been electromagnetic energy released by the UFO's propulsion system, or something even more sinister, they claim. All I'm saying is that, assuming that there is no prosaic explanation for the event, then it's a hell of a lot more likely that a terrestrial electromagnetic effect was somehow triggered, either accidentally or intentionally. Strategic military installations did, as you suggest, go on reserve power. Similar back-up electrical system, however, failed to function at hospitals and other crucial civilian facilities. Also strange is the fact that, despite real concerns that the blackout was the results of sabotage, no alert was issued by the Strategic Air Command or any of the NORAD bases in the area. Why not? As for your question concerning government liability, all I can say is that governments of the world have risked enormous financial liability in the past while subjecting their own people to all forms of testing, which, if such outrageous acts had been carried out by Nazis in WWII, would no doubt have results in the speedy prosecution of the perpetrators. The American, British, and Soviet governments have all conducted ghastly, highly unethical experiments on their own people. This is a matter of public record. In the 1950s, the United States Navy intentionally exposed residents of San Francisco to serratia bacteria, resulting in at least one death. Beginning in the 1940s, the United States Army conducted numerous open-air germ tests across America; in one series of tests, tons of zinc cadmium sulfide, a known carcinogen, were dropped from military cargo planes over Minneapolis and other cities. The list is endless, as evidenced by the DOE Radiation Hearings convened by President Clinton. Interestingly, such testing may lie at the core of the Roswell case. (KK's comments: My theory is based on this. A theory which supporting documentation which I shared with Martin Cannon.) Martin Cannon has suggested that a drone, perhaps conducting an open-air germ or radiation test, crashed in Roswell back in 1947. (KK's comments: Also a part of my theory based on my field work.) As the theory goes, the government, fearing even more lawsuits, has therefore continued to put out cover stories ever since. One investigator (KK's comments: yours very truly, Kathy Kasten) who inspected a graveyard at nearby Fort Stanton (a military site virtually ignored in the Roswell literature), observed that death rates, according to the dates on headstones, increased dramatically between 1947 and 1951, in the wake of the Roswell incident. (KK's comments: That will teach me never to openly share with my fellow investigators. I guess Martin had run out of ideas and didn't feel like doing his own field research. There was my unpublished theory just begging to be taken over by Martin. I guess the temptation was too much.) If Cannon's theory is true, then it could provide further evidence that the government was (and likely still is) ready to risk a lot to further "national security." (KK's comments: after last week's field trip to the area, I have shared only bits and pieces with Walter Bowart and Robert Sterling - publisher of The Konformist; and my hall mates. However, it is the hall-mates who have provided the most constructive suggestions as to how to proceed with the research.) UFO: Your probing into research facilities housing defense contractors such as Sandia National Laboratories and Phillips Laboratories, particularly at White Sands and Los Alamos, runs almost parallel to instances of strange, UFO-related accounts from these areas, sometimes with dire physical consequences for witnesses who have strayed too close to what you obviously believe must have been secret experimental airborne devices. Could the incidence of chance observations of these experiments have become too frequent, resulting in their being relocated to Alaska, a relatively sparsely populated region of the United States by comparison? GMK: Your point is well-taken. Military projects in Alaska are at an all-time high. There's HAARP, ARM/SHEBA, and others. What better place to conduct testing, and to cover up accidents? The director of the University of Alaska-Fairbank's Geophysical Institute, which is involved in HAARP and related projects, recently expressed concern about the military's motives and increasing control over projects originally touted as scientific ventures. Around the time officials from Sandia were glad-handing the locals in Barrow, Alaska, into accepting ARM/SHEBA (a vast array of electronics purportedly used for monitoring climate changes), a "FUO" plopped down on the pack-ice over the Arctic Ocean near town. UFOs had rarely, if ever, been reported in Barrow before. The object could very well have been a drone, which the government admits will be an integral part of ARM/SHEBA, but which Sandia officials failed to mention in their otherwise exhaustive presentation to the Barrow populace. Incidentally, odd aerial lights were also spotted years ago in Point Hope, an Alaskan North Slope village where natives were subjected to ghoulish experiments courtesy of the United States military. Lawsuits are still pending on these cases. The Office of Naval Research, Sandia National Laboratories, and Phillips Laboratories (all heavily involved in the development of electromagnetic bio-effect weapons systems) are key players in these new Alaska projects. So the question begs: why are such military heavy-hitters running the show at facilities that have been sold to the public as being purely scientific? UFO: When you first arrived in Alaska, had you any previous knowledge that native American Eskimos had been subjected to tests involving harmful radioactivity? GMK: No. I was shocked to learn of the long history of abuse of natives at the hands of the U.S. government only after moving here some years ago. It is a pathetic legacy. Of course, with all the recent publicity on government radiation testing, more people are learning of the atrocities committed here. Back in the 1960s, the government wanted to know how radioisotopes move through soil and water, so they released a batch of it near an Arctic native village. Villagers continue to express concern about high rates of cancer in their community. Then, of course, there's the infamous Iodine 131 tests conducted on Inupiat Eskimo and Athobascan villagers by the United States Air Force's Arctic Aeromedical Laboratory. Natives were told they were participating in "thyroid function" study. Some of these poor unfortunate souls were, according to one estimate, subjected to the equivalent of 700 chest X-rays. (snips) UFO: Are there other projects which you felt might have a detrimental impact on the environment, and why these should be centered in Alaska? GMK: I previously mentioned ARM (Atmospheric Radiation Measurement Program) and SHEBA (Surface Heat Budget of the Arctic Ocean). These projects, located on the North Slope of Alaska near Barrow, are supposed to monitor climate changes in the Arctic. No doubt, scientific research is being conducted here, but the line-up of weapons R&D players connected with these projects raises disturbing questions. Major participants include: Department of Energy Office of Naval Research Sandia Phillips Laboratory Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Oak Ridge National Laboratory Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory Argonne National Laboratory Los Alamos National Laboratory and others. Early on, Sandia officials expressed concerns about the local native government's "regulatory environment." ARM utilizes a sophisticated array of lasers and microwave devices, surrounded by so-called RASS units that will send sound waves booming skyward over huge outdoor loudspeakers for at least ten minutes every hour. A draft DOE Environmental Assessment, issued December 1996, conceded that the units could generate sound loud enough to be heard as far away as 2,000 meters (6,900 feet). The ARM site, nestled in an old United States Navy facility, is near small businesses, houses, and even the local college. Furthermore, ARM employs laser-radar units known as LIDAR (KK's comments: Dr. Alfred Wong is the inventor, here at UCLA his telephone number is 310-825-1642 or 310-825-9531; e-mail address is awongat_private), which the military now uses in weapon-firing and target-recognition systems. Officials will say little about SHEBA, which is tied into ARM through Sandia. This project, run under the auspices of the Office of Naval Research, will be conveniently tucked away from view far out on the perennial ice-pack. UFO: The use of holographic projections in future conflicts may be closer than we think; is this a foretaste of what we can expect to see as the United States continues to develop its psychological warfare program, and how real are the dangers from "mind" experiments? GMK: Not many people are aware that President Nixon flirted with a plan back in the sixties to project a holographic image of Christ over Cuba to promote belief in the Second coming which, his advisors hoped, would cause the Cuban army to throw down its arms and overthrow Castro. Similar techniques are known to have been used in Indo-China by the United States military. Michael Persinger, the Laurentian University professor who has conducted extensive studies examining the effects of microwaves on the human brain, concludes that technology now exists to directly affect the mind of every human on Earth. It is interesting that Persinger made this claim about the time the HAARP site was being established in Alaska. He may have had HAARP and other similar facilities in mind when he issued his provocative statement. Interestingly, Persinger has successfully induced UFO-like hallucinations and other altered mental states in subjects, in much the same way United States Army and Navy researchers did, although in a much more rudimentary way, back in the sixties and seventies. (snips)
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