Re: security holes, notification protocols, and a clarification

From: Nathan Neulinger (nneulat_private)
Date: Fri May 15 1998 - 10:54:22 PDT

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    On Thu, May 14, 1998 at 06:29:41PM +0000, Michael Tiemann wrote:
    > I have been informed that this list exists to serve users who have
    > become disenchanted with CERT and "the establishment," and hence the
    > readership values _immediate_ disclosure of _all_ security-related
    > problems, and I have no complaint about that, either.
    
    I'd certainly agree with that. I haven't been on this list for long, but a
    while (months ago) back I reported a very serious problem with Informix
    database servers to CERT, and basically never heard squat back. Sure, they
    said they were looking into it, but nothing ever got done.
    
    The security hole is severe enough to basically null out any security
    database/table permissions that you use.
    
    The problem boiled down to - they are using BSD ruserok() type security
    for their remote database access for other unix hosts, but they don't
    bother to check the source port. So, if you enable another host (that you
    rightly trust on a secure network) to connect to your database server,
    you have unwittingly given ALL users on that host access to ALL users in
    the database server. What's worse, within a couple of minutes, a user on
    the remote machine can run a program (rinetd for example) that will allow
    ANYONE from ANYWHERE to connect to the database as any user.
    
    The problem definately exists in the 5.x and 7.x series of servers, both
    SE and Online. I am not sure about their newer workgroup or universal
    servers.
    
    -- Nathan
    
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