Re: Merry Christmas to Sun! (Was: L0pht NFR N-Code Modules

From: Scott D. Yelich (scottat_private)
Date: Thu Dec 24 1998 - 17:34:16 PST

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    > FYI, I filed bug #4199722 in Sun's bugs database.
    > I'd love it if someone did the "SPARC excercise".  (If you have an
    > x86 exploit, it's not always as easy to maek a SPARC one)
    > Casper
    
    Sorry to waste bandwidth with snivelling...  but it always seems to
    me that the "exercise for the reader" means "I don't know how to
    do it, perhaps someone else might do it,"  or worse in "I think
    this might be possible, but I'm really not able to prove it."
    
    Sometimes it's a bit annoying when people are talking about
    theoretical bugs/exploits and something is said like
    ``it should be possible to do blah or blah'' -- sure, it's
    possible that anything has a bug or an exploit, it's possible
    to break DES,  and it's possible to blah to and blah, etc., but
    IMnsHO, it seems to do little good until someone is going to lose
    money over the situation.
    
    It's also interesting to note that it seems that the exercises
    for the reader from a long time ago are finally being turned into
    xploits or executable/provable examples which, in turn, seems to be
    leading to things getting fixed.  It's as if there isn't proof
    or an exploit, the issue is simply ignored.
    
    It's amazing to see how many exploits are coming out for linux
    that are the same as exploits for other platforms from long ago,
    or ones that are based on things that should have been learned
    a long time ago.   I think it's kind of a shame that each/an OS
    has to suffer this way while becoming popular and populous.
    
    Scott
    



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