Re: your mail

From: Darren Reed (avalonat_private)
Date: Mon Jul 12 1999 - 01:16:58 PDT

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    In some mail from Anonymous, sie said:
    >
    > Hi folks,
    >
    > THC released a new article dealing with FreeBSD 3.x
    > Kernel modules that can attack/backdoor the
    > system.
    > You can find our article on http://thc.pimmel.com or
    > http://r3wt.base.org.
    
    A couple of comments.  This is only possible on systems which are
    already insecure (securelevel < 0).  In other environments, modules
    which are loaded (and their parent directories) should be immutable,
    preventing someone from loading their own.  Similar protection of
    startup scripts and things run at boot time is also required.
    
    Generally, once someone has root on the system it should be considered
    "game over" and it is necessary to rebuild from scratch :-(
    
    In section III, (3), putting hashes in the kernel is not of much use
    unless the kernel is immutable.  In (4), it should say that any tool which
    directly interrogates /dev/kmem will also circumvent hacking sysctl (unless
    that tool itself is also hacked, which is what the original trojans for
    ps did in rootkits).
    
    In general, nothing written up is new, except the sploits for script
    kiddies.  I trust you folks are also working on Solaris exploits, where
    it is (currently) impossible to disable loadable modules...
    
    Darren
    



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