Re: TB2 Pro sending NT passwords cleartext

From: William J Husler (bhuslerat_private)
Date: Mon Jan 17 2000 - 17:02:16 PST

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    It also, last I check, used UDP, so it is certainly not "fully compatible with
    any third party LAN based encryption scheme" - can you say SSH.
    Bill
    
    David Masten wrote:
    
    > Timbuktu Pro 32 (TB2)from Netopia sends user IDs and passwords in clear
    > text.
    >
    > When TB2 is used to remote control a machine that is not logged in or is
    > locked, any user ID and password that is typed in is sent in clear text. A
    > malicious user on the network can "sniff" the packets and gain the NT User
    > IDs and passwords of any one using TB2 to remotely control a NT machine.
    >
    > Versions Tested:
    > Timbuktu Pro 32 2.0 build 650
    > Timbuktu Pro 32 3.0 build 30759
    >
    > Vendor Status: Vendor has been notified and either does not appear willing
    > to correct, or does not understand the implications.
    >
    > Exploit:
    > 1. Start your favorite sniffer on the same network segment as either the
    > controlled machine or the controlling machine.
    > 2. Remote control an NT machine that is either locked or not logged in.
    > 3. Log in to that machine.
    > 4. Stop the sniffer
    > 5. Search the sniffer output file for TCP packets to the controlled machine
    > on port 1417, having a data length of 7, and containing the hex sequence 05
    > 00 3E in the first three bytes of data. The fourth byte is the upper case of
    > the letter that was typed.
    >
    > Workaround:
    > 1. Do not use TB2 to control machines that are not logged in.
    > 2. (From Netopia) "One possible solution, depending on your environment,
    > might include establishing a VPN. Since Timbuktu Pro is a set of services
    > that runs on top of the protocol layer, it is fully compatible with any
    > third party LAN based encryption schemes (Virtual Private Networks) or
    > connection protocols such as PPTP" (I do not see this as a viable solution
    > for their current target market, which is firms needing to centralize IT
    > staff while maintaining de-centralized systems.)
    >
    > David Masten
    > DM InfoSec
    > dmastenat_private
    > 440-725-1401
    



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