I've also received similar "unsolicited" email and I originally had no idea how they obtained my address. But, after a bit of analysis, it appears that free email "vendors," such as Hotmail, appear to be selling their mailing lists to "Spammers." I have received numerous spam mails of varying types at my Hotmail account. The one thing they all have in common is they have approximately a hundred or so addresses that are all Hotmail addresses in alphabetical order. Hmmm ... how could that be? How could a large group of hotmail addresses in alphabetical order be obtained without the complicity of Hotmail? Yet, if you read Hotmail's privacy policy, it explicitly states it will not sell its addresses to third parties. Here's an excerpt from Hotmail's privacy policy ... "... What can I do to manage unsolicited e-mail in my Hotmail account? Hotmail will not sell, lease or rent its member lists with any third parties." Hotmail has instituted an additional folder in its accounts for "Junk Mail." Perhaps they think this is an acceptable option that will allow them to sell mailing lists. Hotmail is also Trust-E certified. Maybe this needs to be taken up with Trust-E. When I contacted Hotmail about this, their response was detailed directions on how to "filter" the mail using the Junk Mail folder and they did not even address the apparent privacy policy violation. I really don't object to Spam that much, it's not much different than the junk you get in your snail mail. Whatever the laws end up regarding spam, they probably should be in some sort of alignment with junk mail. But, when I start receiving spam that is clearly in violation of the mail provider's privacy policies, or I start receiving porno-spam, it makes me mad and it's time to do something about it. Have any of you received this type of Spam? What are some ideas on how to handle this? Obviously, I can cancel the email account ... but, that's only running away from the problem and not a real solution. Best Regards, Jaymes Williams, CISSP Security Analyst PG&E National Energy Group Gas Transmission Northwest 1400 SW Fifth Avenue, Suite 900 Portland, OR 97201 Voice: 503.833.4508 Fax: 503.833.4523 jaymes.williams@private <mailto:jaymes.williams@private> -----Original Message----- From: Heidi [mailto:mcps@private] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 5:36 AM To: crime@private Subject: mail list concerns Alexey Panchenko, I almost did not read your mail due to the subject line, however, the age caught my eye and was very concerning. You have a good point about the SPAM, as well as this should be reported due to the alleged ages mentioned in case it is true. Heidi Henry computingforensics@private <mailto:computingforensics@private> mcps@private <mailto:mcps@private> (Miles Confidential Professional Services) Speaking of something not being SPAM just because it says "This is not Spam! This e-mail is never sent unsolicited". Here below is something I found in my mailbox this morning -- would I need to try to convince the esteemed CRIME group that it *was* unsolicited? Normally, I would just hit the delete button, but due to the contents of this website, I am wondering to whom I could/should report Mr. "Daniel Leuenberger" and his web "service". Thank you, Alexey Panchenko ================ Consultant, Griggs-Anderson Gartner Group, Portland, OR +1 (503) 241-8036, ext. 118 +44 (0)7764 337893 cell panchenko@private ----- Original Message ----- From: <lolita@private> To: <panchenko@private> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 5:07 AM Subject: Young lolitas 5-16 years old > Welcome to SECRET LOLITAS ARCHIVE ! > http://vx-video.com/lolita > > You have seen a lot of "lolita" sites? > Tons of consoles, low speed connection, small and blurry photos. Right? > Want to see real Lolitas site? > http://vx-video.com/lolita site amoung others. > We all know that only pay sites can give you > high speed connection and there is no annoying advertising. > http://vx-video.com/lolita is a one of the best pay site > with the highest service. Huge collections of > Hiqh Quality uncensored photos. Weekly updates. > Try it now! > > http://vx-video.com/lolita > > Yours faithfully, Daniel Leuenberger > > > =================================================================== > Disclaimer: > This is not Spam! This e-mail is never sent unsolicited. > This e-mail is being sent to you because your e-mail was submitted that > you wish to receive it. If you do not want to receive further mailings, > just mail to lolita@private > > > PG&E National Energy Group and any other company referenced herein that uses the PG&E name or logo are not the same company as Pacific Gas and Electric Company, the regulated California utility. Neither PG&E National Energy Group nor these other referenced companies are regulated by the California Public Utilities Commission. Customers of Pacific Gas and Electric Company do not have to buy products from these companies in order to continue to receive quality regulated services from the utility.
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