On Friday 02 November 2001 12:25, Crispin Cowan wrote: > Heidi wrote: > >It is very apparent from the recent postings, that there is a lot of > >frustration going on here. There are a lot of smart people in this group, > >perhaps everyone's energies could be put to better use, by thinking of > > ways to better the situations at hand, i.e., ideas for stopping DoS > > attacks "before" they reach the intended target,(is this possible? I am > > just learning) > > It is just barely possible. The technology has to be deployed high up in > the network infrastructure, e.g. next to backbone routers. Companies > developing such technologies include Captus Networks > http://www.captusnetworks.com/ (who sponsored the RAID workshop last > month http://www.raid-symposium.org/raid2001/ ) and Asta Networks > http://www.astanetworks.com/ (founded by Stefan Savage, a friend of mine > who did his PhD research at U.Washington in Seattle > http://www.astanetworks.com/company/team/stefan.html ) The next trick is to drop "bad" packets without screwing up future extensions to the packet structure. (As has happened with the latest conjestion management protocols.) > > Yes, they may be taking away nail clippers, but you do have > >other more effective ways to defend yourself and help others on the > > airplane if you are in a threatened situation. Certainly with the smart > > people in our group, there must be some good ideas out there for helping > > to improve things. A side note; we have over 35 million laws trying to > > enforce 10 commandments. Heidi > > I have problems with a bunch of those commandments. Fully half of them > are non-portable religion-specific doctrine: I fail to keep the sabath > and take the Lord's Name in vain on a regular basis :-) Not to mentioned the failed consistancy checks when run through any sort of reasonable parser. (But that is the start of a different rant.) "Do unto others as they would have do unto them." "But what if they are a masochist?" > Unless you > meant these commandments > http://www.lysator.liu.se/c/ten-commandments.html (which by the way are > topical to CRIME) Especially #5.
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