RE: Scam

From: Ken Emmons (KENEMM@private)
Date: Thu Nov 08 2001 - 15:04:13 PST

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    I believe that if we start criticizing one and other (especially if we do it
    Anonymously), we will stop users from seeking help and knowledge.  It would
    be better to help educate others who are not at your level of expertise by
    providing guidance and locations for research.  I know that you did in your
    letter, but without putting the person down.  You could have sent an email
    just to the person if you truly wanted to help.  
    
    I hope we don't start making fun of people for asking questions.  If we do,
    several people will stop asking questions or drop off our list.  
    
    IRT kenemm@private?  I believe we are all grown-up and don't feel anyone is
    going to wait for me after school to beat me up. (ha ha)
    
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Anonymous [mailto:nobody@private]
    Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:06 PM
    To: crime@private
    Subject: RE: Scam
    
    
    At 11:40 AM 11/6/01 -0800, Heidi wrote:
    >John, excuse me for putting the question out on the CRIME list.  Some
    people
    >did not respond the way you did and were very helpful.  Some of us out here
    >are learning and do not have the experience you do. I am sorry for
    >"clogging" the CRIME list. I had also already acknowledged that I got the
    >message it was a hoax and thanked everyone for their responses and hoped
    >that would stop any further responses. Heidi
    
    I can't speak for John or anyone else but, in all honesty Heidi, you ask
    questions that are 
    often marginal and deal with very elementary issues and reflect both
    ignorance, which is no-
    fault, but also a failure to do any basic research at all, which I have a
    problem with.
    
    For example a Google search on "Nigerian fraud" yields the Secret Service on
    the first page of 
    hits: http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/alert419.htm
    
    The USSS has a database for these frauds and you can either fax them to
    (202) 406-5031 or e-
    mail them to 419.fcd@private
    
    On Denial of Service attacks, the first page of Google hits yields Dave
    Dietrich's page up at 
    U.Washington with a huge amount of information including ingress and egress
    filtering.
    
    So I would encourage you to try some basic research before you show your
    ignorance in the 
    future and I would encourage the group to respond to any elementary
    questions with URL's 
    instead of a quick summary paragraph and apply the truism, "if you teach a
    (wo)man to fish."
    
    IRT anonymous?  Heidi, I believe we've met and I don't feel comfortable
    criticizing you without 
    fear that it will come back to haunt me.
    



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