My understanding of IS security is kind of hit and miss so I appreciate hearing all the questions. I am not as concerned about the question or the person who asked the question as the number of people who responded to it. It seems like after four of five people said that it was a scam that that should have been enough discussion on the topic and we need to move on. I am sure there are topics that can use further explanation; however, this topic did not justify the number of response which were all saying basically the same thing. We need to use some common sense and stop spamming everyone on the list with responses that add very little to the information that has already been provided. -----Original Message----- From: Ken Emmons [mailto:KENEMM@private] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:04 PM To: 'Anonymous'; crime@private Subject: RE: Scam I believe that if we start criticizing one and other (especially if we do it Anonymously), we will stop users from seeking help and knowledge. It would be better to help educate others who are not at your level of expertise by providing guidance and locations for research. I know that you did in your letter, but without putting the person down. You could have sent an email just to the person if you truly wanted to help. I hope we don't start making fun of people for asking questions. If we do, several people will stop asking questions or drop off our list. IRT kenemm@private? I believe we are all grown-up and don't feel anyone is going to wait for me after school to beat me up. (ha ha) -----Original Message----- From: Anonymous [mailto:nobody@private] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:06 PM To: crime@private Subject: RE: Scam At 11:40 AM 11/6/01 -0800, Heidi wrote: >John, excuse me for putting the question out on the CRIME list. Some people >did not respond the way you did and were very helpful. Some of us out here >are learning and do not have the experience you do. I am sorry for >"clogging" the CRIME list. I had also already acknowledged that I got the >message it was a hoax and thanked everyone for their responses and hoped >that would stop any further responses. Heidi I can't speak for John or anyone else but, in all honesty Heidi, you ask questions that are often marginal and deal with very elementary issues and reflect both ignorance, which is no- fault, but also a failure to do any basic research at all, which I have a problem with. For example a Google search on "Nigerian fraud" yields the Secret Service on the first page of hits: http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/alert419.htm The USSS has a database for these frauds and you can either fax them to (202) 406-5031 or e- mail them to 419.fcd@private On Denial of Service attacks, the first page of Google hits yields Dave Dietrich's page up at U.Washington with a huge amount of information including ingress and egress filtering. So I would encourage you to try some basic research before you show your ignorance in the future and I would encourage the group to respond to any elementary questions with URL's instead of a quick summary paragraph and apply the truism, "if you teach a (wo)man to fish." IRT anonymous? Heidi, I believe we've met and I don't feel comfortable criticizing you without fear that it will come back to haunt me.
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