I concur -- I think it is great to have standard references for major topics (we could put them in a FAQ), and to always be able to ask extended discussions on those topics to defer to other lists, but they shoudl *not* be 'off-topic' here. I think we are also here to help raise the status quo of security practices, and to defeat the taken-for-granted bad habits and misguided assumptions that all too often propigate. I also vote for a 'closed' list, allowing for submission only from subscribers, but think a web-submission front-end would be helpful for newcomers to get help with... these could be approved by any of our potential quasi-moderators, who are attentive to the list and on-line a lot. The job would entail accepting the occasional web-submitted message, and also watching out for any email-bombings (c-squad just had a bad one from a vacation mailer) or even a bad subscriber... I thought the list was closed already, when we signed the infraguard sign-up that was my take. Anywhoo, I'd be happy to help keep watch for the good of the list ;-) I also watch some securityfocus.com lists, c-squad, and some linux user-group lists... Kuo, Jimmy wrote: >There isn't a good virus discussion forum at the moment. There used to be >virus-l but the moderator got too busy. > >But all three of your "off-topic" subjects seem to me to be on-topic, so >long as the poster makes it useful. > >I try to use "do I offer something in my post that allow others to learn and >become a better security professional?" (Of course, I don't always succeed, >but that just makes me human. :-) ) > >Jimmy > >-----Original Message----- >From: Crispin Cowan >.... >---------(draft charter)------------------ >This mailing list ( <mailto:crime@private> crime@private ) is the >mailing list for C.R.I.M.E (Computer Related Investigations Management & >Education) an Oregon working group, based in Portland, OR, dedicated to >combining Law Enforcement, High-Tech Industry, and Academic resources. >The purpose is to conduct high-tech training and foster networking among >members in areas of computer-related investigations, security, and >education. Information about C.R.I.M.E. meetings can be found here ><http://crime.zotconsulting.com/> http://crime.zotconsulting.com/ > >This mailing list is for discussions pertinent to the C.R.I.M.E. >meetings, and C.R.I.M.E.'s mission: computer security, as it pertains to >law-enforcement and computer crime in Oregon. Valid topics include: > > >* anything pertaining to the content of a meeting or speaker >* breaking news about computer security issues >* computer security incidents of interest to Oregon law >enforcement >* general computer security issues of particular interest to >Oregon and southern Washington > > >Off-topic issues that should go more appropriate forums include: > > >* firewall issues: suggest it to to Firewall Wizards ><http://list.nfr.com/forum/firewall-wizards.html> >http://list.nfr.com/forum/firewall-wizards.html >* generic security vulnerability issues: suggest it go to ><http://www.securityfocus.com/> http://www.securityfocus.com/ >* computer virus issues: [??? Get Jimmy Kuo to tell us the best >virus resources; I'm not a virus guy. Best I could find is this ><http://www.cert.org/other_sources/viruses.html> >http://www.cert.org/other_sources/viruses.html ] >
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