There isn't a good virus discussion forum at the moment. There used to be virus-l but the moderator got too busy. But all three of your "off-topic" subjects seem to me to be on-topic, so long as the poster makes it useful. I try to use "do I offer something in my post that allow others to learn and become a better security professional?" (Of course, I don't always succeed, but that just makes me human. :-) ) Jimmy -----Original Message----- From: Crispin Cowan To: Steve Layman Cc: Jere Retzer; crime@private; georgeh@private Sent: 12/11/01 11:19 AM Subject: Proposed CRIME List Charter Steve Layman wrote: I would not mind moderating the list as I too think it is needed. I also agree and vote for a closed list. As to the charter I have never put one together before and do not know a proper format but am again willing to compile inputs and publish for review. This is the list charter that I drafted for George about 2 months ago. George has never said yay or nay to my charter, so it is not official. AFAIK, it is George's list, so "votes" don't count, unless George chooses to put it to a vote. But IMHO, this charter would be very functional, and seems to fit the goals of what most of the people here want. And it would cut down on the meta-discussion about what CRIME is supposed to be about :-) Note that there are a few blanks in the charter, e.g. for appropriate resources for talking about virii. I assume that Jimmy can come up with better resources than I can. Crispin ---------(draft charter)------------------ This mailing list ( <mailto:crime@private> crime@private ) is the mailing list for C.R.I.M.E (Computer Related Investigations Management & Education) an Oregon working group, based in Portland, OR, dedicated to combining Law Enforcement, High-Tech Industry, and Academic resources. The purpose is to conduct high-tech training and foster networking among members in areas of computer-related investigations, security, and education. Information about C.R.I.M.E. meetings can be found here <http://crime.zotconsulting.com/> http://crime.zotconsulting.com/ This mailing list is for discussions pertinent to the C.R.I.M.E. meetings, and C.R.I.M.E.'s mission: computer security, as it pertains to law-enforcement and computer crime in Oregon. Valid topics include: * anything pertaining to the content of a meeting or speaker * breaking news about computer security issues * computer security incidents of interest to Oregon law enforcement * general computer security issues of particular interest to Oregon and southern Washington Off-topic issues that should go more appropriate forums include: * firewall issues: suggest it to to Firewall Wizards <http://list.nfr.com/forum/firewall-wizards.html> http://list.nfr.com/forum/firewall-wizards.html * generic security vulnerability issues: suggest it go to <http://www.securityfocus.com/> http://www.securityfocus.com/ * computer virus issues: [??? Get Jimmy Kuo to tell us the best virus resources; I'm not a virus guy. Best I could find is this <http://www.cert.org/other_sources/viruses.html> http://www.cert.org/other_sources/viruses.html ] -- Crispin Cowan, Ph.D. Chief Scientist, WireX Communications, Inc. http://wirex.com <http://wirex.com> Security Hardened Linux Distribution: http://immunix.org <http://immunix.org> Available for purchase: http://wirex.com/Products/Immunix/purchase.html <http://wirex.com/Products/Immunix/purchase.html>
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