Re: CRIME NIPC DAILY REPORT 15 JULY 2002

From: Alan (alan@private)
Date: Mon Jul 15 2002 - 10:46:36 PDT

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    On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 09:25, Shaun Savage wrote:
        Cyber-terrorists don't care about your PC.  Hackers have broken into
        financial institutions' computer systems, and put popular Web sites
        temporarily out of business with distributed denial-of-service
        attacks.   But this is not the sort of thing that keeps most
        security experts up late at night.  What keeps them awake is
        worrying about the underlying systems that control the local power
        grids, the local drinking water treatment facilities, and the gas
        that's used to heat our homes.  These resources are vulnerable and a
        malicious user anywhere in the world could someday expose them,
        causing a severe degradation in service. (InfoSec News, 12 Jul)
        
        
    They may not care what is IN your PC but they want your PC as launch
    point.  Getting control of an address help them hide their attacks.  All
    the need to do is to put a proxy on your machine, and now they are
    hidden.  Local routers may have different rules for different IP's.  The
    attack may require a different protocol that is blocked from some
    IPaddresses and not others.   If an orginazation can control 90% the
    computers on the net, they can control the world.  Evil Axis and Empires
    need to be stopped :-\ 
    
    "CyberTerrorists" are an overabused buzzword.
    
    Lumped into that are script kiddies, web site defacers, and a host of
    other crimes that do not involve death and/or terror of any sort.  (If
    you are terrified of the thought of your web site defaced, I recommend
    professional help.)
    
    It is like claiming that all taggers are out to destroy the sign
    industry.  The claim is absurd at its core.
    
    The reason that script kiddies want your home machine is that you have
    bandwidth.  You have stuff on your system.  (Maybe they want the
    pictures you took of your wife at that motel to post to
    alt.sex.wank.wank.wank.) If they have your computer, they can use it as
    part of a denial of service attach against some lamer that beat them at
    Quake. They can use it as a warez hosting site.  They can use at in the
    ongoing score of who has rooted the most machines. (The first to 100
    billion gets let back into heaven.)
    
    Most home networks are easy to protect.  You can buy a hardware DSL
    firewall for about $100. Might not be perfect, but it will stop 99.999%
    of the script kiddies. 
    
    Unfortunately, MSN makes this difficult.  They use a proprietary version
    of PPPoE that makes it next to impossible to install a hardware
    firewall. (Unless you run that machine as the firewall and gateway
    through it. Not like that is going to happen for most home users.)
    
    As for the other paranoid scenarios of terrorists being able to turn up
    the gas and ignite it remotely.  That is what the Department of Homeland
    Defense is for.  
    
    If you are worried about people doing stupid things with X-10 protocols,
    then inform them of the risks.  (Or make a better protocol.)
    
    If you are worried about people hacking the electrical grid or shutting
    down airports, then don't hook them up to the net.  (Just because air
    traffic control management want to read their mail and surf for porn
    from their desks does not mean it is a good idea to connect those
    systems to the net!)
    
    Besides... Most of those systems were made before most of the script
    kiddies were born.  If they get converted to Windows, then start to
    worry!
    



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