That was my feeling. There is plenty of local talent to put together a Seattle/Portland seminar. Its just who can handle the logisitcs. One of the reasons Anitian abandoned the effort was the enourmous amount of time it would require. We just didn't have the resources to throw at it. Maybe if a bunch of us got together and committed some resources, we could make it fly. Andrew Plato > -----Original Message----- > From: esteban gutierrez [mailto:esteban@private] > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 11:55 AM > To: Andrew Plato > Cc: Jordan Gackowski; crime@private > Subject: RE: CRIME BlackHat and DefCon > > > > > I spoke with Jeff Moss (the organizer of BlackHat) for a bit > about putting > together these sorts of talks. I would be interested in helping get > something small together for Portland/Seattle/Eugene. It > would be hard to > get that same kind of "critical" mass that Defcon gets, but I think a > small Blackhat-ish kind of 2 or 3 day event could happen. There's > definately enough local talent to get some interesting talks together. > > -Esteban > > > On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Andrew Plato wrote: > > > Yeah, I wanted to go this year, but as usual I was loaded > down with customer work and couldn't get away. Next year, I'm > clearing my calender and will go. > > > > I always wanted to put on a similar conference in the > Pacific Northwest. Anitian started building plans to do a > "Pacific Northwest Security Summit" last year, but > abandoneded it because it was just too expensive and time > consuming. Opting instead for smaller, sponsored seminars. > Maybe the time is ripe to do an Oregon version of DefCon/BlackHat? > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Andrew Plato, CISSP > > President / Principal Consultant > > Anitian Corporation > > > > (503) 644-5656 office > > (503) 201-0821 cell > > http://www.anitian.com > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jordan Gackowski [mailto:jgackowski@private] > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 8:50 AM > > > To: crime@private > > > Subject: RE: CRIME BlackHat and DefCon > > > > > > > > > > > > Well... the naked women can be attributed to Vegas in > > > general - so go any time you feel like it. > > > > > > However, DefCon is the best bargain out there. I encourage > > > everyone to > > > attend next year. It was $75 to attend. So, even if you > > > don't want to be > > > part of the "festivities" and just go listen to the speakers > > > it is a great > > > bargain. Compare it to blackhat the week before - it was > > > ~$1200. Granted, > > > it was a little more organized and refined and there were > > > more speakers and > > > they had cookies and coffee on the afternoon breaks. But the > > > content was > > > remarkably similar; MANY of the speakers gave the same > > > presentation at > > > both conferences. > > > > > > The Con was $75, the plane ticket was $166 on delta and if > > > you bargain hunt > > > around for a hotel you can get by for pretty cheap. So, even > > > if my company > > > didn't pick up the tab I'd still go. > > > > > > Just something for you guys out there on the list to think > > > about for next > > > year. > > > > > > _______________ > > > Jordan Gackowski > > > jgackowski@private > > > Security Consultant > > > Symantec Corp. > > > > >
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