FW: CRIME Checkpoint versus Sonicwall

From: Jason Marx (jmarx@private)
Date: Tue Sep 03 2002 - 09:41:13 PDT

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    Being the Check Point representative, I have a few things to add to Ron's
    reply.  My first response is what products are being compared?  I could just
    as easily ask why a $5,000 Sonicwall instead of a $300 Check Point FW?
    
    Assuming we are comparing the functions of an integrated FW/VPN let's start
    with VPN clients.  On top of what Ron has already mentioned, CP now also
    comes with "clientless VPN" which uses SSL in the remote client browser, or
    uses Microsoft's native VPN client L2TP.  Enabling client to sight VPN
    connections without installing software on the client box.
    
    CP also includes Smart Defense.  SmartDefense actively protects
    organizations from all known, and most unknown network attacks.   It blocks
    attacks by type and class using Check Point's patented Stateful Inspection
    technology and provides a single, centralized console delivering real-time
    information on attacks as well as attack detection, blocking, logging,
    auditing and alerting.
    
    CP is also the clear industry leader in centralized management capabilities.
    The Enterprise Management Console, SiteManager-1 and Provider-1 deliver
    centralized management for gateways and clients. VPN, Firewall and QoS
    management is completely integrated into a single GUI.
    
    Feel free to contact me anytime for many further functionality differences
    between Check Point and any other seemingly comparable products.
    Jason Marx
    Territory Manager
    Check Point Software Technologies, Ltd.
    503-702-1172
    jmarx@private
    
    We Secure The Internet
    www.checkpoint.com
    
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-crime@private [mailto:owner-crime@private]On Behalf Of
    Alex Thurber
    Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 3:05 PM
    To: Subject: FW: CRIME Checkpoint versus Sonicwall
    
    Since Ron is representing Structured, the current Checkpoint reseller in
    Portland, I would be remiss to not mention that Eric should look at the
    Cisco PIX series of firewalls.
    Cisco now has products ranging from $595 at the low end to a 5-gigabyte
    blade for the Catalyst 6500 switch; all integrated into the overall Cisco
    product line for end-to-end security and manageability.
    Alex
    Ps  Just to be upfront, I'm the Cisco Regional Manager for Oregon.  Previous
    to that I was the Cisco Security Specialist, and, before Cisco, I used to
    own Checkpoint's largest reseller in Oregon.
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ron Fowler [mailto:ron@private]
    Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 2:26 PM
    To: Eric Kornberg; crime@private
    Subject: RE: CRIME Checkpoint versus Sonicwall
    
    For what it is worth..
    I am assuming the SonicWALL product you are considering is the Pro 300. What
    Checkpoint supported platform are you considering?.  Checkpoint's VPN-1 Pro
    Gateway running on a Nokia Platform would run 16 - 18K with normal
    discounts - still 3X the cost of  the SonicWALL solution.  Is VPN a
    requirement for your application?
    If so, Checkpoint seems to have has a stronger VPN offering.  I have found
    that SonicWALL (Firmware 6.3) has limited centralized management for VPN
    clients,  lacks an integrated personal firewall on the VPN client and
    provides no security verification checks before a VPN connection is
    established. SonicWALL lacks policy rules for individual employees or groups
    which may limit the granularity of access control. SonicWALL also lacks
    stateful failover of VPN and firewall connections which limits fault
    tolerance.
    I hope this helps.
    Regards,
    
    Ron Fowler ron@private
    Structured Communication Systems, Inc.  http://www.structured.com
    4382 SE International Way, Suite C
    Portland, OR 97222
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: Eric Kornberg [mailto:ekornberg@private]
    Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 10:42 AM
    To: crime@private
    Subject: CRIME Checkpoint versus Sonicwall
    
    To all...
    We are having an issue justifying the money it would take to implement a
    Checkpoint solution versus a SonicWALL solution. One is $40,000 and the
    other is $5,000
    It would appear to the "over exposed to IT trade information" eye that there
    is not a lot of difference - except in the price?
    
    Am I missing something?
    Anyone want to comment?
    (This would be for mixed Unix and Windows networks)
    Thank you in advance for your information....
    Eric K.
    



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