Steve, We are security people. We do our jobs by espousing that people practice "best practices" and that people abide by "policy." You respond with "That's what the delete key is for" to the guy who already did as suggested and was the guy who changed the subject line, and thus is already practicing the accepted protocol. So, you shouldn't have been railing at him. But I am impressed to meet someone who averages more email than me. However, on a good (bad) day, I can get 5000 or more emails. :-) However, that's because I asked for it. They would be reports of malware being posted to the newsgroups. And I can quickly scan and delete them, so it's not as much of a burden. How do you get through 2000 emails in a day? Or do you have something similar on some sector of security giving you reports? Jimmy -----Original Message----- From: Steve Nichols [mailto:steven@private] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:49 PM To: Owner-Crime Subject: Re:CRIME Off topic junk mail On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 06:33:18PM -0500, itmann@private wrote: > You guys must not have enough work to do! Some people have a job and don't need all the junk mail this list produces. >We do get >some good data from our group, but we get a heck of a lot more junk and "in you face" commentary from Crispin. That's what the delete key is for. You have NO idea how many e-mail's I receive every day. Approaching a thousand. On a good weekend, I get near 2200 Do I read every single one? NO Ya know, that's what a subject line is supposed to do. Tell you the potential reader, the subject of the thread. If you want to read it---read it. If you don't---don't. Did you not see the subject? "CRIME Off topic junk mail" To me that say's that maybe Toby or Crispin or Shaun found another cool site, or has something witty to say. Not READ ME NOW!! You won't get booted off this list for NOT reading the emails. (trust me ;) ) This list is the least of the offenders. Oh my GOD! I got 3 e-mail's from CRIME today... *****Steve shacking fist angrily at sky.....***** Those Bastards..... I'm going to rant and rave to the list about proper internet and email etiquette. Come on. Deal with it. > > > From: Crispin Cowan [mailto:crispin@private] > > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:04 PM > To: Farrimond, Ronald - KN-7 > Cc: 'alan'; Alesha R. Adamson; crime@private > > Subject: Re: CRIME > > > Farrimond, Ronald - KN-7 wrote: > > >If we use Alan's definition and you go back to the original > e-mail. > >The link in the e-mail is to an unsolicited commercial > e-mail/website. > > >Therefore, I have to assume that Alan agrees that this is SPAM > even > >though he seems to be in a state of denial!!! > > > Bollocks: that would only be valid if Toby was the vendor of the > wares > for sale on the site. He just forwarded it because he thought it was > funny. > > It is not spam. It is, however, off topic. So I will attempt to > refrain > from trolling this thread any more, unless some infosec stuff > actually > pops up. > > Crispin > > -- > __________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com > http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Steven Nichols Network and Systems Administrator Internet and NOC Manager VALLEY INTERNET COMPANY 1709 NE 27th Street, Suite C McMinnville, Oregon 97128 503-565-5030 or 800-909-9078 (toll-free) "Pay no attention to the folks behind the curtain..." PGP: www.viclink.com/~steven/steven.nichols.pgp.txt
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