RE: CRIME Privacy Vs Security

From: Kuo, Jimmy (Jimmy_Kuo@private)
Date: Mon Jun 09 2003 - 01:01:32 PDT

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    "When your fist meets my nose."
    
    Not quite "never."  But not too far away either.
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Crispin Cowan
    To: Shaun Savage
    Cc: CRIME
    Sent: 6/8/03 2:52 PM
    Subject: Re: CRIME Privacy Vs Security
    
    Shaun Savage wrote:
    
    > Senator Wyden fights for privacy!
    >
    > The question I ask the group is "At what point does security out weigh
    
    > the privacy and freedoms that America should offer?" 
    
    IMHO, approximately never. The only purpose in compromising our freedoms
    
    is to preserve our freedoms from an external threat. This is almost 
    never required, and almost always a mistake. And since the fall of the 
    Soviet Union, there basically is no external threat to our freedoms, 
    only to marginal amounts of property and small numbers of civilians.
    
    In no way what so ever are infringements on our liberties such as the 
    odious PATRIOT act justified by the meagre threat imposed by Osama bin 
    Laden and his shabby ilk.
    
    Crispin
    
    >
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/06/08/MN253740.DTL
    
    Wyden is way down at the bottom. Good for Wyden; glad to see him showing
    
    some backbone against the administrations ham-fisted grabs at our civil 
    liberties.
    
    Crispin
    
    -- 
    Crispin Cowan, Ph.D.           http://immunix.com/~crispin/
    Chief Scientist, Immunix       http://immunix.com
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