"When your fist meets my nose." Not quite "never." But not too far away either. -----Original Message----- From: Crispin Cowan To: Shaun Savage Cc: CRIME Sent: 6/8/03 2:52 PM Subject: Re: CRIME Privacy Vs Security Shaun Savage wrote: > Senator Wyden fights for privacy! > > The question I ask the group is "At what point does security out weigh > the privacy and freedoms that America should offer?" IMHO, approximately never. The only purpose in compromising our freedoms is to preserve our freedoms from an external threat. This is almost never required, and almost always a mistake. And since the fall of the Soviet Union, there basically is no external threat to our freedoms, only to marginal amounts of property and small numbers of civilians. In no way what so ever are infringements on our liberties such as the odious PATRIOT act justified by the meagre threat imposed by Osama bin Laden and his shabby ilk. Crispin > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/06/08/MN253740.DTL Wyden is way down at the bottom. Good for Wyden; glad to see him showing some backbone against the administrations ham-fisted grabs at our civil liberties. Crispin -- Crispin Cowan, Ph.D. http://immunix.com/~crispin/ Chief Scientist, Immunix http://immunix.com http://www.immunix.com/shop/
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