Re: CRIME Senator Hatch - Destroy file swappers' computers

From: Seth Arnold (sarnold@private)
Date: Thu Jun 19 2003 - 10:43:57 PDT

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    On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 09:55:46AM -0700, Christiansen, John (SEA) wrote:
    > legal matter the "innocence defense" - or "inattentive and clueless defense"
    > - at some point turns into the *negligence liability* which might justify
    > intervention. 
    
    There are far too many "0-day" exploits for me to take this seriously.
    http://news.com.com/2100-1002-995834.html?tag=lh
    http://www.alw.nih.gov/Support/Security_Notices/Oct30.sshcrc32.html
    
    Yeah, there are a lot of folks who don't patch their systems right away,
    but frequently, they've learned -not- to!
    http://lwn.net/Articles/15497/
    http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/business/5953698.htm
    http://www.spinics.net/lists/kernel/msg171866.html
    
    > defendant's systems to be taken over to attack plaintiff's network). The
    > question then is, if I could get a court order to stop harmful activity, can
    > I stop it myself without one?
    
    Wouldn't it be far easier to just contact the abuse@ contact for the ISP
    and the technical contact for the netblock in question, and have them
    fix the problem legitimately on their end, once for all?
    
    -- 
    "[Attorney General] Ashcroft went to the University of Chicago Law School
    -- a very good law school -- but the Bill of Rights never quite reached
    him." -- Nat Hentoff
    
    
    



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