RE: CRIME Electronic Voting Security

From: Gunderson_Dane (dane.gunderson@private)
Date: Thu Sep 11 2003 - 08:17:59 PDT

  • Next message: Crispin Cowan: "Re: CRIME Electronic Voting Security"

    Nationwide 95% of voter fraud issues involve absentee ballots...
    We have an absentee election.
    
    Plus...  voters demonstrate regionally identifiable patterns... if you want
    to bias the results then start tossing ballots from the region less likely
    to vote your way.  
    eg.  Pro-tax increase public employees could toss east county zip codes by
    applying a stricter standard for signature matches etc. 
    
    And who would ever know? 
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Anthony Brock [mailto:anthony_brock@private]
    Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:36 AM
    To: crime@private
    Subject: Re: CRIME Electronic Voting Security
    
    
    >>> Crispin Cowan <crispin@private> 09/10/03 11:33PM >>>
    >I don't buy that. No criticism of Anitian; rather Oregon's vote by mail 
    >system is woefully vulnerable:
    >
    >    * Simple mail fraud.
    >    * Coercion: there is no evidence that individuals are no coereced to
    >      vote particular ways by family members, enforcement goons, or
    bribery.
    >    * There is no VVAR (Voter Verifiable Audit Record) of any kind. In
    >      fact, the voter has no evidence at all that their vote was counted.
    
    Of course, VVAR didn't exist even prior to vote-by-mail. While coercion and
    mail fraud are recent additions to the list, voters have never known if
    their votes have counted.
    
    Tony
    



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