Re: how to do intrusion detection right

From: Nicholas Charles Brawn (ncb05at_private)
Date: Fri Apr 17 1998 - 20:04:14 PDT

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    Would you then not run the risk of attackers masking hostile traffic by
    making it appear to look "expected"?
    
    Nicholas Brawn
    
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    Nicholas Brawn - Computer Science Undergraduate, University of Wollongong.
    
    On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, George J. Dolicker wrote:
    
    > I think perhaps what the intrusion detection system might do is not look
    > for something "interesting", but rather something "different".  Rather than
    > trying to define what is a problem, define what is NOT a problem... so
    > configure the IDS to smile upon traffic that is expected, and panic over
    > anything else.
    > 
    > Same principal we use in firewalling:  that which is not explictly
    > permitted is denied.  
    > 
    > G.
    > 
    > At 12:02 PM 4/16/98 MDT, Martin W Freiss wrote:
    > >When the administrator can tailor the IDS to unacceptable/interesting
    > >stuff on the net, what he does is transfer his own mindset about security
    > >to the IDS. I then have a machine that "thinks" like me, which thus alerts 
    > >me about facts that I am already aware of - a useful thing that may save 
    > >some work, but will not help me notice next week's bug being exploited. 
    > >
    > >I may be stupid, but what is "interesting" is something I do not know 
    > >before an intrusion attempt.
    > >Tomorrow's attack may use some technique that is "obviously" safe today,
    > >thus bypassing my (human or computer) filtering layer. Using a sufficiently
    > >"new" technique, my firewall will probably not notice that it has been 
    > >broached. What _can_ help me is having a complete log of everything that
    > >has been going through the network, which I can then analyze to understand
    > >what has happened. An intrusion analysis system, if you will - which 
    > >so far includes a large human component.
    > >
    > >-Martin
    > >
    > 
    > 
    



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