This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms9539B8600836457575401089 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Wizards, I am working on a very big job where we are putting in firewalls in three datacenters on three continents. Bigcorp currently has all its intersite traffic going over Frame relay world wide and does not encrypt it. We said, that is a very bad idea as your data has a very high value if it gets out ahead of the announcements. You should encrypt it, better than that you should put your site to site traffic through these nice firewalls that we are putting in for you and not only encrypt it but use the firewalls to control access between sites. They said, we asked our frame relay provider if they are secure and they said yes and we believe them. I said, they can say that but I dont believe it for a minute. So to cut a long and tedious conversation short I would very much like to hear from anyone stories of how frame relay connections have been tampered with so that the traffic can be listened to. Listening is enough, the data does not have to be changed. EG. A long time ago I heard a story of how an ISDN connection between two sites was listened to by sending in a false maintenance note that meant that the engineer put the switch into maintence mode. Mr evesdropper then was able to connect to the maintence interface of the switch and listen to everything going past. Any info would be good, specifics cases with names changed to protect the non so innocent would be better. Please feel free to send me specifics under cover of the woefully inadaquate export grade SMIME key. For the truly paranoid you can find a mans strength key at www.belsign.com www.belsign.com Thanks for your time. 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