Re: fw-1 general & VPN questions

From: Eric Vyncke (evynckeat_private)
Date: Tue Apr 21 1998 - 00:59:09 PDT

  • Next message: Marcus J. Ranum: "Re: fw-1 general & VPN questions"

    At 18:25 20/04/98 -0400, Marcus J. Ranum wrote:
    >Joseph S. D. Yao wrote:
    >>> I also intend to do some "out-of-band" mgmt with a dialin
    >>> modem on the serial console of the two sun boxes (yes, yes,
    >>> wardialers I know). However, this is what the customer wants,
    >>> and I have no say-so, so I need to simply get it set up.
    
    ...<SNIP>...
    
    >I've been pondering the secure remote management thing for a while
    >and was trying to come up with decent solutions that are dirt cheap.
    >Haven't tried this, but does anyone see a flaw with:
    >  - have a log-in that drops you right into PPP using CHAP
    >  - run ip_filt on the workstation to filter access via the PPP interface
    >  - let only SSH in over PPP (or whatever other services are OK)
    
    I would personnaly prefer a plain ASCII login via a dedicated
    login program with `strong' authentication with S/key or any
    other OTP. Then a complete logging of everything the user types.
    We can even restrict the login program to start a restricted shell.
    (of course, your firewall should have a ASCII interface...).
    
    One issue is of course that you must trust the physical phone
    line. Confidentiality is probably not a big issue for firewall
    management (as long as you do not manage passwords!), hijacking
    is a problematic issue of course.
    
    NB: the latter paragraph also apply to your PPP/CHAP solution.
    
    NB2: instead of using CHAP with static password, I would prefer
    PAP (clear text passwords) with OTP.
    
    >
    >mjr.
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    Eric Vyncke      
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