Re: [fw-wiz] Proverbial appliance vs software based firewall

From: Gary Flynn (flynngnat_private)
Date: Tue Oct 15 2002 - 09:27:49 PDT

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    Anton Aylward wrote:
    > 
    > On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 00:26, Jared Valentine wrote:
    > >
    > > While it is correct that all security comes down to "software" at some
    > > point, I would argue that hardware is much more secure.  The difference
    > > between the two is that the hardware manufacturer can build off of a trusted
    > > base/OS.  They can look at the OS line by line and strip out everything not
    > > essential for the operating of that firewall.
    
    So could some customers and they could do it with their specific 
    needs in mind.
    
    > I think that you "DON'T GET" Marcus's comment.
    > Hardware in this sense is still software - embedded systems.
    > Nothing in the Gartner paper contradicts that.
    
    Another way of looking at it is the difference between software
    installed and configured by the vendor vs software installed
    and configured by the customer...or maybe even proprietary vs
    open source (sorry, couldn't resist).
    
    The effectiveness probably depends on the needs and capabilities
    of the target market. I'm sure NSA would like the opportunity
    to inspect and tune their own kernel and OS configuration while 
    a small company consisting mostly of web developers would rather 
    leave that chore to the vendor (and therefore trust them with
    their security).
    
    One could make similar arguments either way for "appliance" web 
    servers, mail servers, or other turn-key systems.
    
    -- 
    Gary Flynn
    Security Engineer - Technical Services
    James Madison University
    
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