From: Ivan@work
Date: Tue Oct 23 2001 - 21:45:49 PDT

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    At about 1.00pm EST in Australia, was hacked by
    YIHAT. I have some screen captures if anyone is interested.
    cheers Ivan
    text to follow:
    Hello, world!
    SECURITYNEWSPORTAL is temporarily down. We'd like to take this time to talk
    to you about some things.
    There exists a cancer in the security community right now, and that cancer
    exists in individuals and groups who could be classified as scenewhores.
    These parties attempt to profit off the security community, without actually
    being a part of it.
    For instance, SECURITYNEWSPORTAL.COM. This site was
    hacked/cracked/rooted/whatever with the ssh1/crc32 exploit. Sure, SNP staff,
    call us scriptkids. We won't argue that. But, what does it make you? Your
    server has been vulnerable to a bug that has been known of since February.
    You've built a popular "security" site (although, the truth is its complete
    garbage, but the masses don't realize that, hopefully they will start to
    now). Maybe if this weren't a "security" site, they would have an excuse for
    this compromise, but lets be realistic -- there is no reason for anything
    "security" related to be compromised by an eight-month old bug. And,
    especially after all the current discussion about the bug in "security"
    SECURITYNEWSPORTAL.COM makes money off their website. They encourage the
    actions of scriptkids. They encourage defacements. Why shouldn't they? They
    make money off their actions. SECURITYNEWSPORTAL.COM is more about
    insecurity than security; their business prospers. We are looking forward to
    hearing them bitch about this incident. Hypocrites.
    Why do companies choose to advertise with an organization like
    SECURITYNEWSPORTAL.COM? Advertising with them supports them, why do you
    support them? Are you aware of what you're supporting? The people who run
    SNP are _NOT_ hackers, they do _NOT_ possess any knowledge pertinant to
    computer security; why is your money with them? Why don't you donate to
    organizations that do _REAL_ security research? Why not invest your money
    somewhere better?
    The era of security scenewhores is about to end. Well, not all scenewhores,
    just the ones who attempt to exploit the security scene for their own
    personal profit. SNP staff -- instead of trying to refute the claims against
    you, why don't you spend some time learning computer security? That'd be the
    intelligent thing to do. You probably want to get your capitalist machine up
    and running again though, don't you?
    Everyone, please think of what we have said here. To the public, please take
    the time and ponder how "security minded" the staff of
    SECURITYNEWSPORTAL.COM are. Remember, this site was comprimised by an
    eight-month old bug. Sure, they'll bitch and moan about being the victim of
    some scriptkid, but what are they really saying? "We're too lame to
    understand the security advisories we mirror", or "We don't have the time to
    maintain security on this machine; all our time is invested in running this
    magnificent website", or even try to claim that it was a different
    vulnerability? To all who are advertising here, can you _PLEASE_ at least
    consider what you are supporting? You aren't supporting the security
    industry, the traffic you recieve back is from a "kiddie" population (anyone
    who frequents this site and thinks its worthwhile is either entirely
    ignorant of security matters, or a kiddie of some sort). It shouldn't be too
    hard to find more profitable and worthwhile ventures.
    Incidently, if you're a real hacker, and looking to do some good for the
    world, please come to and speak with us. We're always
    looking to recruit new talent for our organization.
    Kim Schmitz (aka Kimble)
    YIHAT Founder / Chief Hacking Officer +
    +49 89 523520
    <Kimble> to all the flamers, yihat will have thousands of members in a few
    month, be carefull! critics are ok, insults NOT!
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