ICMP Src IP = Dst IP (not a Land attack)

From: mtorenat_private
Date: Thu Feb 21 2002 - 10:41:33 PST

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    This is an IMCP “Fragmentation Needed/DF set” 
    message, but the source and destination IP 
    addresses are the same.  This is not a land 
    attack, as it is ICMP.
    
    This is the external IP of an Arrowpoint (Cisco 
    CSS) load balancer.   The TTL of 53 doesn’t look 
    like an initial TTL, which leads me to believe that 
    it was not generated by the load balancer itself, 
    or even the clients directly behind it.  There are 
    two different IP ID numbers for the six alerts 
    (46555 and 46636).  There are also two different 
    data payloads, but notice that the payloads and 
    IP ID number do not match for all of the alerts (i.e. 
    the first and last alert have the same IP ID, but a 
    different payload).
    
    This was detected with Snort, and the output is 
    from the ACID ‘email full alert’ option.
    
    Any ideas?
    
    Thanks!
    Monte Toren
    mtorenat_private
    
    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    ------------
    #(2 - 30338) [2002-02-20 14:59:28]  MISC same 
    SRC/DST
    IPv4: AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD -> AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD
          hlen=5 TOS=0 dlen=28 ID=46555 flags=0 
    offset=0 TTL=53 chksum=6190
    ICMP: type=Destination Unreachable 
    code=Fragmentation Needed/DF set
          checksum=59284 id= seq=
    Payload:  length = 4
    
    000 : 59 60 BC 06                                       Y`..
    
    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    ------------
    #(2 - 30339) [2002-02-20 14:59:28]  MISC same 
    SRC/DST
    IPv4: AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD -> AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD
          hlen=5 TOS=0 dlen=28 ID=46555 flags=0 
    offset=0 TTL=53 chksum=6190
    ICMP: type=Destination Unreachable 
    code=Fragmentation Needed/DF set
          checksum=59284 id= seq=
    Payload:  length = 4
    
    000 : 59 60 BC 06                                       Y`..
    
    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    ------------
    #(2 - 30340) [2002-02-20 14:59:29]  MISC same 
    SRC/DST
    IPv4: AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD -> AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD
          hlen=5 TOS=0 dlen=28 ID=46636 flags=0 
    offset=0 TTL=53 chksum=6109
    ICMP: type=Destination Unreachable 
    code=Fragmentation Needed/DF set
          checksum=11154 id= seq=
    Payload:  length = 4
    
    000 : 59 8A 77 DF                 
    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    ------------
    #(2 - 30341) [2002-02-20 14:59:29]  MISC same 
    SRC/DST
    IPv4: AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD -> AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD
          hlen=5 TOS=0 dlen=28 ID=46636 flags=0 
    offset=0 TTL=53 chksum=6109
    ICMP: type=Destination Unreachable 
    code=Fragmentation Needed/DF set
          checksum=11154 id= seq=
    Payload:  length = 4
    
    000 : 59 8A 77 DF                                       Y.w.
    
    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    ------------
    #(2 - 30342) [2002-02-20 14:59:30]  MISC same 
    SRC/DST
    IPv4: AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD -> AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD
          hlen=5 TOS=0 dlen=28 ID=46655 flags=0 
    offset=0 TTL=53 chksum=6090
    ICMP: type=Destination Unreachable 
    code=Fragmentation Needed/DF set
          checksum=9693 id= seq=
    Payload:  length = 4
    
    000 : 59 8A 7D 94                                       Y.}.
    
    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    ------------
    #(2 - 30343) [2002-02-20 14:59:30]  MISC same 
    SRC/DST
    IPv4: AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD -> AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD
          hlen=5 TOS=0 dlen=28 ID=46655 flags=0 
    offset=0 TTL=53 chksum=6090
    ICMP: type=Destination Unreachable 
    code=Fragmentation Needed/DF set
          checksum=9693 id= seq=
    Payload:  length = 4
    
    000 : 59 8A 7D 94                                       Y.}.
    
    
    
    
    
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