Guys, cool down.... our discussion is not about grc.com or any comments about this site. we are talking about "how to chase spoofed IP in the dark" Here are a few sites, i come accross during my search, http://www.csm.ornl.gov/~dunigan/oci/bktrk.html http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/22.html I thank every one of you for your contribution. Thanks -M ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Snow, Corey" <CSNOWat_private> To: "'Jupp, Peter'" <JuppPat_private>, "'mahmut korkmaz'" <mahmutkorkmazat_private>, incidentsat_private Subject: RE: DoS, possibly spoofed IP Addresses Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:39:34 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [12.104.66.98] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBE74976C0052400431CF0C684262EBD70; Wed, 03 Apr 2002 10:39:40 -0800 Received: from thumper.deltadentalwa.org (root@localhost)by thumper.deltadentalwa.org with ESMTP id g33IdZA03824;Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:39:35 -0800 (PST) From CSNOWat_private Wed, 03 Apr 2002 10:40:51 -0800 Message-ID: <200204031839.g33IdZa03820at_private> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-H-S-Loop-Check-Ejzfr: Steve Gibson's position on a number of issues, most notably the XP/raw sockets issue, is not one that is shared by a majority (vast majority) of security professionals. Steve Gibson's research on the use of raw sockets is, to say the least, flawed (IMO). Also, Mr. Gibson engages in no small amount of FUD in his site, which is less informative than it is inflammatory, again IMO. I would *highly* recommend a search of the archives of this list, Bugtraq, and the security-basics list for more information on Steve Gibson and GRC.com before you take anything he says on his website at http://grc.com as being useful and/or valuable. I am not attacking Steve Gibson personally here; in my opinion he's probably a nice guy. But his actions have done more to harm information security than improve it. As the site grcsucks.com says, Mr. Gibson is not a scam(er), but his motivations are worth questioning, as are his methods. Also, see some of these URLs for counters to Steve Gibson's statements on a number of issues: http://grcsucks.com http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/24189.html http://staff.washington.edu/dittrich/misc/ddos/grc-reply.txt I don't speak for my employer. Corey Snow > -----Original Message----- > From: Jupp, Peter [mailto:JuppPat_private] > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 6:56 AM > To: 'mahmut korkmaz'; incidentsat_private > Subject: RE: DoS, possibly spoofed IP Addresses > > > Hi Murat, > The best reading I've done about DoS attacks was courtesy of > Steve Gibson, look here http://grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm , of > particular interest elsewhere on Mr Gibson's site is the > information about Windows XP raw sockets, which deliver IP > spoofing capability to the masses. > Good Luck, > Peter. > > ######################################################### The information contained in this e-mail and subsequent attachments may be privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. This transmission is intended for the sole use of the individual and entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have received this message in error, please e-mail the sender at the above e-mail address. ######################################################### _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided by the SecurityFocus ARIS analyzer service. For more information on this free incident handling, management and tracking system please see: http://aris.securityfocus.com
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