Re: Information Needed on Malicious Traffic

From: Dietmar Goldbeck (goldbeck@e-trend.de)
Date: Thu Jul 10 2003 - 16:42:07 PDT

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    On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 09:22:58PM -0400, Piyush Bhatnagar wrote:
    > Hi All,
    > 
    > I am doing some research on the amount of malicious traffic on the internet.
    > 
    > In your opinion, what percentage of traffic entering your networks (and on
    > the internet) would you consider as dirty? By Dirty traffic I mean to refer
    > to the traffic that is un-desired or malicious which could contain traffic
    > related to attacks, probes, spam etc.
    > 
    > I have read a few white papers from some security product vendors and the
    > claims range from 5% to 30%.
    > 
    
    I don't think this percentage makes sense from a statistical point of view.
    
    About 1000 to 2000 alerts a logged daily on the firewall and snort for
    a /29 range of IPs. This varies far less than my traffic.
    
    Depending whether i update my debian mirror or even shutdown my
    applications, i can calculate any percentage between 1% and 100% (yes,
    there are a lot of attacks on unused ip space...).
    
    You have the same statistical problem for a typical webserver.
    It receives requests from a lot of infected machines. The
    number of those worm/virus caused requests has IMHO little to do
    with the actual load of useful requests. 
    
    OTOH we have detailed Mailserver stats here (postfix with spamassasin)
    showing that SPAM is currently around 50% of the messages (sorry, no
    statistics on byte count handy)
    
    IMHO statistics how long a machine can survive without being
    compromised are more interesting. The honeynet project has some
    numbers.  Judging my firewall/snort logs, i guess it takes only a few
    days until some "first audit" has been done and most known bugs are
    exploited :-)) 
    
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