Re: Information Needed on Malicious Traffic

From: Vern Paxson (vernat_private)
Date: Fri Jul 11 2003 - 00:43:04 PDT

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    > I can't find a reference to this now, but at Vern Paxon's talk at the
    > 1999 USENIX Workshop on Intrusion Detection he claimed that malicious
    > packets and broken packets are essentially indistinguishable.
    
    More specifically, *some* malicious packets (in particular, those used to
    facilitate evasion) look a lot like the broken-but-benign packets that
    you see in any large traffic stream.  This is discussed further in the
    section on "crud" in the Computer Networks version of the Bro paper:
    
    	http://www.icir.org/vern/papers/bro-CN99.html
    
    That said, however, most malicious packets (e.g., scans) don't look broken.
    So in principle, it would be possible to cobble together some sort of
    estimate regarding the portion of traffic that's hostile.  The particular
    number is going to depend a lot on the units.  For example, LBL exchanges
    around 1.5 billion packets/day - virtually all of these, proportionally,
    are benign.  On the other hand, it engages in around 9 million distinct
    TCP connections or attempted connections a day (at least, that was yesterday's
    figure), and a good chunk of these are hostile (scans), perhaps more than
    half.
    
    		Vern
    
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