Re: Bitkeeper (was: New LSM patch for consideration)

From: Titus D. Winters (titusat_private)
Date: Tue Jun 19 2001 - 15:53:56 PDT

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    Chris and I also have a bit of difficulty in using BitKeeper, mostly
    because our lab is behind some really stompy firewalls.  A tarball would
    be nice, although we've been managing.
    
    -Titus
    
    
    On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Chris Wright wrote:
    
    > * jmjonesat_private (jmjonesat_private) wrote:
    > >
    > > All I can offer is that I talked to my attorneys and was advised against
    > > accepting BitKeeper's license based on my intentions and expectations.
    > > Attorneys think "differently" than technical people, which is why we
    > > hire them.  They may be wrong, but not for me "in general".
    > >
    > > As a developer...  BitKeeper's license is not "standard".  If you work for
    > > a big company, aim your legal department at it.  If they give the
    > > "go-ahead", go for it.  The selection of BitKeeper has some issues...
    > > which may or not be relevant to your specific needs.
    >
    > The BitKeeper license is very sepecifically written to allow exactly the
    > type of development we are doing.  Basically, as long as you don't mind
    > allowing openlogging where all metadata -- changeset file, changelog
    > stuff, and some bitkeeper specific files -- is sent to an openlogging
    > server then you are ok AFAIK.
    >
    > But none of us are experts, I'd suggest re-reading the BitKeeper license
    > and/or querying BitMover.  If you are doing work that you don't want to
    > allow openlogging (i.e. propritary work) then you need a commercial
    > license (or another source control mechanism).
    >
    > > How hard/evil would it be to tarball up the whole development tree once
    > > every 24 or 48 hours?
    >
    > That seems overkill.  We could simply provide the latest patch as well
    > as the latest stable patch (although i'd really rather not!).  But before
    > we consider this please verify that you simply cannot use BitKeeper.
    >
    > > If it could be supported, I'd provide a site to
    > > make it accessable if THAT kernel would be provided, as an option,
    > > I think it would solve my problem.  If not, I await an official release
    > > of the LSM patch from the list/site against a stable linux kernel.
    > >
    > > And I will attempt to apply Mr. Smalley's modified patch against what
    > > I have and work from there.
    >
    > The work Stephen has done will be in BitKeeper today or tomorrow, and a
    > stable patch will be released at the same time.  So you can also just
    > wait for that.
    >
    > -chris
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