Re: LSM Summer BOF's

From: Crispin Cowan (crispinat_private)
Date: Wed Mar 20 2002 - 13:56:55 PST

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    Russell Coker wrote:
    
    >Choosing people based on their work is the best thing to do with such a 
    >conference....
    >
    Yup, I'm getting that idea :-)
    
    >  Unlike commercial Unix conferences you can read some code from 
    >every person who could be considered for a talk (apart from the occasional 
    >talk on Linux consulting or business development which doesn't involve code).
    >
    However, this is kinda funny, because that is exactly how USENIX started 
    out, back in the 70s when "UNIX" was that strange new OS that those 
    hippies and academics liked to use, and the conferences were very 
    informal, and you could read everyone's code ...
    
    >Now as for the issue of why this is, most of the audience in Linux 
    >conferences wants to hear a talk, ask some questions, and have dinner with 
    >the presenter afterwards (I consider it rude to not make yourself available 
    >for a meal with your audience after the presentation).  They don't want to 
    >read a paper, they can always ask questions on the mailing list!
    >
    The purpose of the paper is to make it scalable. I'm happy to have 
    dinner with a few people, talk about neat ideas over beer, etc., but a 
    USENIX conference will get over 1000 attendees. Formally reviewed papers 
    is a scalable way to get clear, high-quality info out to a large number 
    of people.
    
    But it's like that in many venues, e.g. informal management techniques 
    work well for small teams, but you need to get formal policies and 
    procedures when you grow large, because you just cannot deal with 
    everyone personally.
    
    And Greg is right, this is all OT for LSM, so I'll stop posting now. 
    Private comments to me & whoever else cares are welcome.
    
    Crispin
    
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