On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:01, Crispin Cowan wrote: > >How is it divergent? > > * the OLS way: > * Authors submit 1 or 2 paragraph proposals. > * No such thing as multiple authors. > * The OLS committee (or person?) decides which proposals to > accept. > * Since there is > * no multiple authorship > * the papers are light compared to the talk > * there is almost no content available at selection time > * I presume that proposals are valued at least as much on the > basis of the proposer as on the proposed content. That is in my experience "the Linux conference way". Apart from the issue of multiple authors which is actually allowed. > long term. If OLS continues on in this way, then 20 years from now only > the well-established olde boys of the Linux Oligarchy will be able to > speak at OLS, and newbies will get to shut up and listen to their elders :-) Choosing people based on their work is the best thing to do with such a conference. Unlike commercial Unix conferences you can read some code from every person who could be considered for a talk (apart from the occasional talk on Linux consulting or business development which doesn't involve code). New people can get involved by becoming famous through their code, or by having one of the well known people speak for them. Also it's easy to get a speaking opportunity at your local LUG. If you do well there you'll get called back repeatedly, and then people involved with conferences will start emailing you CFP type documents. If there's someone on this list who feels unable to get a break to talk at conferences then they should contact me privately. I'll try and introduce them to a conference-mentor who can asses their skills, give them advice, and make sure that they get appropriate speaking opportunities that match their skill level. Now as for the issue of why this is, most of the audience in Linux conferences wants to hear a talk, ask some questions, and have dinner with the presenter afterwards (I consider it rude to not make yourself available for a meal with your audience after the presentation). They don't want to read a paper, they can always ask questions on the mailing list! Also the people giving presentations at Linux conference don't want to write a paper, it's a lot of work with no perceived benefit. If you want a successful Linux conference then you won't require papers because neither the audience nor the presenters want them. -- http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/projects.html Projects I am working on http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page _______________________________________________ linux-security-module mailing list linux-security-moduleat_private http://mail.wirex.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-security-module
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