Re: [logs] a small reminder

From: Michael Poon (mpoonat_private)
Date: Tue Aug 27 2002 - 09:46:24 PDT

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    Events to be logged (my addition)
    
    - use of special privilege
    - system start-up and stop
    - I/O device attachment/detachment
    - password changes
    - modification to software
    
    MP.
    
    Tom Perrine wrote:
    > 
    > >>>>> On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 21:00:18 +0000 (GMT), Tina Bird <tbird@precision-guesswork.com> said:
    > 
    >     TB> whilst i'm enjoying the conversation about log formats and transport
    >     TB> mechanisms, i feel obliged to point out that when i kicked off discussion
    >     TB> #1 on the path to world domination, i was trying to build a list of events
    >     TB> we'd like to see logged.
    > 
    > OK, so we break it down into:
    > 
    > * events to be logged (what is currently logged?  What are we
    >   missing?)
    > 
    >     - authentication (failures and successes)
    >     - network connections (be able to log all, a'la tcp_wrappers)
    >     - HW failures
    >     - SW failures
    >     - object accesses (?)
    > 
    >     Note: there is a *lot* of work in this field that is pretty old,
    >     and at least asked all the right questions, even if today's
    >     specific answers might be different.  See _A Guide to
    >     Understanding Audit in Trusted Systems_ (Tan Book)
    >     (part of the rainbow series)
    > 
    >     A better way might be to define about a dozen buckets and start
    >     putting messages from our own logs into them, whereever they fit.
    >     If we find a message that doesn't fit into an already-defined
    >     bucket, create a new bucket.  This will tell us the kinds of
    >     things we are already getting.  Its the start of a taxonomy, if
    >     nothing else.
    > 
    > * format of event notifications (check IDMEF, Apache "common log format)
    >   (looks like some kind of XML.  Is there overlap with IDMEF?)
    > 
    > * transport of events (syslog-reliable++ is probably the answer)
    > 
    > So it looks like at least 2 of these three areas have standards-track
    > solutions.  Yup, we;re back to Tina's original question:  *what*
    > events do we care about?
    > 
    >     TB> as seems to be standard when we talk about logging, we have gone haring
    >     TB> off after how to transport the data and how to parse the data and we've
    >     TB> lost track of what bloody data we're after.  arguments about "could it be
    >     TB> standardized" notwithstanding, sniff, sniff, surely >>someone<< out there
    >     TB> has opinions about other things they'd like to see?
    > 
    > If we define the events, then at least new SW might follow the
    > definition instead of going off and inventing yalm (yet another log
    > message).
    > 
    > --tep
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