Re: [logs] reinventing syslog [was: Secure Central Log Host]

From: Tom Perrine (tepat_private)
Date: Fri Dec 06 2002 - 10:53:18 PST

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    >>>>> On Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:18:17 +0100, "Rainer Gerhards" <rgerhardsat_private> said:
    
        RG> However, we have seen that the "received at" timestamp is the most
        RG> valuable, especially if the devices follow syslog RFC which prohibits TZ
        RG> information in the syslog time stamp...
    
    We are planning to have an option to ignore that "no TZ permitted"
    part of the RFC.  It is clearly broken.  The only alternative is to
    log in UTC, but that's often inconvenient for humans.
    
    
        RG> Honestly, I think it would be good to have some improved syslog protocol
        RG> with
    
        RG> A) simple tcp connections (_not_ BEEP)
        RG> B) some more meta data (like full blown time stamps)
        RG> C) support for larger message sizes (we deal with Windows events and
        RG> 1024 bytes is pain..)
        RG> D) optional encryption
    
    Yes, yes, yes, and.... yes.  Don't forget that a little integrity
    would be nice, and for some, more important than encryption.
    
        RG> My personal opinion on the new syslog RFC series is that these are
        RG> overkill at some point weak in others and I think this is the reason so
        RG> few out there start implementing it. After struggling some time with
        RG> BEEPCore on Win32 we decided to wait until the market sees a need for it
        RG> ;) And BEEP doesn't even solve all the issues we see...
    
    Wow.  You tried BEEPCore on *Windows*!?!?!  I'm *impressed*.  You're a
    braver man, than I, by far.
    
    --tep
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