Snip.... On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Solar Designer wrote: SD! Michael Tokarev's avcheck isn't out of consideration for Owl, too, SD! although I'm not sure of how much use it would be if we don't also SD! package an anti-virus (which is hardly the right thing to do, for both SD! licensing and technical reasons... well, maybe in some commercial SD! build of Owl if such a thing is ever born). Solar, I think in order for this to happen, you need to consider breaking Owl, into a commercial and a research version, they way NFR was back about '99. i.e., a research version for the hackers, and a corporate version for the suits. That of course involves adding functionality and whizz-bang spiffy grafix for the suits. One way you could possibly do this is to encourage drop in functionality, i.e. an addin IDS box, GW firewall, mail server, etc.... It's a pain trying to raise money from commercial ventures, and it's gonna be an uphill struggle to make money out of Owl. The most annoying thing is seeing how useful Owl can really be, but until we can convince people that a full install of Mandrake, Red Hat, etc does not a secure server make, money will be hard to come by... Just my random scriblings... -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Simon B. spb@private http://kaizo.org/~simonb/ Can't cook, won't cook, will eat shin cup -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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