RE: How to discover FW-1 management module or GUI?

From: DABDELMOat_private
Date: Mon Sep 17 2001 - 02:03:57 PDT

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    When I talked about the port 257, I did not say it was the GUI->MC port
    number ;)
    Indeed port 257 is the port used by the management console to communicate
    with the firewall modules.
    
    David
    
    > -----Message d'origine-----
    > De:	Michael Batchelder [SMTP:piranhabrosat_private]
    > Date:	vendredi 14 septembre 2001 01:53
    > À:	Alex Butcher; Carmelo Floridia
    > Cc:	pen-testat_private
    > Objet:	Re: How to discover FW-1 management module or GUI?
    > 
    > 
    > --- Alex Butcher <alexat_private> wrote:
    > >
    > > Carmelo Floridia wrote:
    > > > How can i discover in a LAN the management module
    > > > or the PC that run FW-1 GUI?
    > > 
    > > You won't be able to discover the host running the
    > > GUI other than by sniffing the network and finding a
    > > host that's communicating with the 
    > > management module. IIRC, the protocol used is
    > > 258/tcp.
    > 
    > I've seen a couple incorrect postings to the list of
    > the GUI->MC port number.  Port 258 TCP is the
    > traditional port that the MC listens on for GUI
    > connections.  Keep in mind that some deviant types
    > (myself included) tunnel the GUI over SSH w/port
    > forwarding, just to make life on the hackers harder,
    > and provide an additional layer of auth.
    > 
    > You might be able to infer which hosts run the GUI in
    > a LAN w/o snooping by firewalking any firewall between
    > the GUI and the MC.  Ideally, MC's are behind
    > firewalls themselves, not sitting around on the LAN. 
    > Ideally...
    > 
    > As far as discovering the MC, it typically listens for
    > multiple things besides the GUI client connection. 
    > For example, it listens for connections from VPN
    > clients for topology downloads, IKE, cert stuff,
    > etc...  There's a whole range of ports from > 256 up
    > thru 264, plus 900 and some others, OTTOMH.  If you
    > see a machine that fits this profile, you got a MC. 
    > Check www.phoneboy.com for the definitive list.
    > 
    > Binky
    > 
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