Fwd: Fw: best tool to draw attack trees ??

From: Matthew Franz (mfranzat_private)
Date: Fri Mar 22 2002 - 15:59:18 PST

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    Syntex, a latex preprocessor was the only thing I found to even be marginally useful. 
    
    There are some commercial win32 based GUI risk analysis tools that were even less useful.
    
    See:
    
    http://www.theory.org/~matt/syntex/
    http://freshmeat.net/projects/syntex/
    
    -mdf
    
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Kruse, Darren (DEH)" <Kruse.Darren2at_private>
    > To: <pen-testat_private>
    > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 7:00 PM
    > Subject: best tool to draw attack trees ??
    > 
    > 
    > > I'm puzzling over what is the best way to draw attack trees.
    > > Attack trees provide a formal, methodical way of describing the security
    > of
    > > systems, based on varying attacks. Basically, you represent attacks
    > against
    > > a system in a tree structure, with the goal as the root node and different
    > > ways of achieving that goal as leaf nodes.
    > > Bruce Schnier's Secrets and Lies - Digital Security in a Networked World
    > >
    > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471253111/qid=1016671800/sr=8-1/ref=
    > > sr_8_67_1/002-8209990-0206427 , in particular chapter 21 covers Attack
    > Trees
    > > There's also a DDJ article on attack trees
    > > http://www.ddj.com/documents/s=896/ddj9912a/9912a.htm (also by Bruce
    > > Schnier) that covers virtually the same ground as the book.
    > > I'm thinking that it would make a really good motivational tool for
    > > management to see what all the threats are against our systems.
    > > Having a documented attack tree would also help me in identifying what
    > holes
    > > ,and threats I need to worry about RIGHT NOW !
    > > My first thought was to wade in, and start drawing with Visio - making use
    > > of the layers feature to distinguish between different sets of values..
    > > Possible / Impossible Cost script kiddie tool released ?
    > > etc..
    > > But does anyone know of a more "closely-suited" tool than Visio ? I've
    > done
    > > a google search on "attack tree" software, and come up blank.
    > > There are cheaper alternatives to Visio - maybe Kivio mp
    > > http://www.thekompany.com/products/kivio/faq.php3 ?? Unfortunately, the
    > KDE
    > > version (Kivio without the mp suffix) doesn't do layers. :-(
    > > Would a web interface be better ? - certainly for navigating between
    > > threats, but how about when you want to see a larger part of the tree ? ,
    > or
    > > the whole attack tree ??
    > > Maybe MS Project ? - it's good at showing inter-related tasks , that have
    > > dependancies and costs, and can output to HTML as well.
    > > How about when I want to add , or share bits of someone else's attack tree
    > ?
    > > It would be cool to be able to download discrete sub-branches, just like
    > you
    > > download additional Snort IDS signatures.
    > >
    > > Darren Kruse CCNP CCDP
    > > WAN/LAN Networking Consultant
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    > > mailto://darren_kruseat_private
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