Re: best tool to draw attack trees ??

From: Bill Pennington (billpat_private)
Date: Fri Mar 22 2002 - 15:00:38 PST

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    The OWASP project (http://www.owasp.org) is planning on building attack
    trees for web application threats in UML I believe. XML could be an option
    as well. You would still need to find the best way to display it but XML
    gives you a bit more flexibility IMHO.
    
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Kruse, Darren (DEH)" <Kruse.Darren2at_private>
    To: <pen-testat_private>
    Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 7:00 PM
    Subject: best tool to draw attack trees ??
    
    
    > I'm puzzling over what is the best way to draw attack trees.
    > Attack trees provide a formal, methodical way of describing the security
    of
    > systems, based on varying attacks. Basically, you represent attacks
    against
    > a system in a tree structure, with the goal as the root node and different
    > ways of achieving that goal as leaf nodes.
    > Bruce Schnier's Secrets and Lies - Digital Security in a Networked World
    >
    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471253111/qid=1016671800/sr=8-1/ref=
    > sr_8_67_1/002-8209990-0206427 , in particular chapter 21 covers Attack
    Trees
    > There's also a DDJ article on attack trees
    > http://www.ddj.com/documents/s=896/ddj9912a/9912a.htm (also by Bruce
    > Schnier) that covers virtually the same ground as the book.
    > I'm thinking that it would make a really good motivational tool for
    > management to see what all the threats are against our systems.
    > Having a documented attack tree would also help me in identifying what
    holes
    > ,and threats I need to worry about RIGHT NOW !
    > My first thought was to wade in, and start drawing with Visio - making use
    > of the layers feature to distinguish between different sets of values..
    > Possible / Impossible Cost script kiddie tool released ?
    > etc..
    > But does anyone know of a more "closely-suited" tool than Visio ? I've
    done
    > a google search on "attack tree" software, and come up blank.
    > There are cheaper alternatives to Visio - maybe Kivio mp
    > http://www.thekompany.com/products/kivio/faq.php3 ?? Unfortunately, the
    KDE
    > version (Kivio without the mp suffix) doesn't do layers. :-(
    > Would a web interface be better ? - certainly for navigating between
    > threats, but how about when you want to see a larger part of the tree ? ,
    or
    > the whole attack tree ??
    > Maybe MS Project ? - it's good at showing inter-related tasks , that have
    > dependancies and costs, and can output to HTML as well.
    > How about when I want to add , or share bits of someone else's attack tree
    ?
    > It would be cool to be able to download discrete sub-branches, just like
    you
    > download additional Snort IDS signatures.
    >
    > Darren Kruse CCNP CCDP
    > WAN/LAN Networking Consultant
    > Mobile : (+61) 0407 446 399
    > mailto://darren_kruseat_private
    > http://www.geocities.com/darren_kruse
    >
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