Re: Scanners and unpublished vulnerabilities - Full Disclosure

From: David Litchfield (mnemonixat_private)
Date: Tue May 28 2002 - 16:07:35 PDT

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    Many people in this industry know me, if not personally, then by reputation
    and know I have always been a supporter of full disclosure. The idea behind
    the VNA is exactly as we state on the web site. It exists as a method to
    "persuade" vendors to provide their customers with a patch rather than
    silently supply security fixes in a service pack. We all know that trying to
    keep up with patches can be a never ending task - however - if there is a
    security problem in the software I use I'd rather be able assess the risk to
    me or my organization myself and determine if I need to install the patch or
    whether I can wait until the next service pack comes out. In the absence of
    a patch I can't make this choice though - the vendor has done the risk
    assessment for me - and this is useless - how can they, not knowing my
    circumstances, decide for me whether a security problem should be left for
    the next 8 months until the next service pack is due out?
    
    I'd rather see vendors furnishing their customers with the right information
    and a patch so the _customer_ can decide whether the want or need to fix the
    hole.
    
    Now - what has been happening recently is quite the opposite. Vendors have
    been moving away from providing a patch to rolling them up in service packs.
    Hence the VNA. I feel that once a vendor is publicly seen to have a problem
    with their code then the only responsible thing they can do it provide their
    customers with a patch.
    
    The VNA is not some marketing scheme. Whenever I have discovered a problem
    it has always (well 90% of the time) immediately gone into Cerberus Internet
    Scanner or Typhon so this aspect of the VNA thing is not new by any stretch
    of the imagination. What's more the VNAs are not posted to any mailing
    list - only posted on our site. Those who most come to our site are our
    customers - and I don't need to market to these people.
    
    I hope this clears up some of the speculation.
    
    Cheers,
    
    David Litchfield
    
    http://www.ngssoftware.com/
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
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