RE: Scanning - anyone got ball park timings?

From: Conan the Librarian (conan_the_librarianat_private)
Date: Thu May 29 2003 - 11:57:52 PDT

  • Next message: Pete Herzog: "RE: Scanning - anyone got ball park timings?"

    I've done one or two scans in my time with a host of vendor's and open
    source tools. It seems that if you are doing a SANS Top Ten for 1700 hosts,
    your 16 hour time frame is a bit long. Let's assume that the scanner machine
    is not cpu max'ed and causing the delays.
    
    Your comment about "1700 hosts found" implies that you have set the scanner
    to look for hosts, instead of specifying a list or tight range. Searching
    for hosts usually involves some species of ICMP query or a connect attempt
    via TCP. Doing this is going to add time as you have a limited number of
    threads you can support at any one time and you must allow timeouts to occur
    on absent/down machines before you can add another. Try being more specific
    on your host list to avoid this. Also check out the default "host alive?"
    settings on the scanner- you may be trying to connect to multiple protocols
    or ports and not be aware of it.
    
    Another thing that can add lots of time to a simple scan is name resolution
    for each host found. Each resolution query is brief, but it does add up with
    large segments involved in the scan. Disable name resolution to avoid this
    problem.
    
    Finally, sniff a scan session and look for network problems, esp with
    congestion, time-outs, slow host responses and resolutions. Scanners are
    relatively noisy and the increased load may burden the host(s) scanned or
    some portion of the network. Any device causing issues should show up
    clearly in the trace file.
    
    If all else fails, a reliable standby is to break the scan into smaller
    segments and run them via cron or AT.
    
    
    Dr. Michael J Staggs
    
    
     -----Original Message-----
    From: 	Mark Phillips [mailto:markat_private]
    Sent:	Thursday, May 29, 2003 7:27 AM
    To:	pen-testat_private
    Subject:	Scanning - anyone got ball park timings?
    
    Hi,
    
    What are peoples experiences of time scales when scanning ranges of hosts?
    OK, so I know that's a "how long is a piece of string", but if people can
    say what sort of times they're getting for a given size of IP range and
    given type of scan, that would be helpful.
    
    I've been running a "SANS 20" policy scan from ISS Internet Scanner 7,
    across the Internet, and am seeing timings like 16 hours for 1700
    addresses found. Is this realistic? Is this quick or slow? If it's slow,
    do people have any hints and tips about how to speed up the whole process?
    
    Any pointers muchos appreciated.
    
    Cheers,
    
    --Mark
    
    
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