FC: Nanotech report argues "uploaded" AI, nanobots are implausible

From: Declan McCullagh (declanat_private)
Date: Wed Apr 25 2001 - 05:17:40 PDT

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    [This is an important report, though the Viola Vogel comments are from 
    someone who is in part a nanotechnology critic. For instance, Vogel calls 
    simulating a human mind on a computer a "nightmarish scenario," though it 
    seems to me to be an inevitable and unobjectionable step. Forwarded from a 
    related mailing list, apologies for the bad formatting. --Declan]
    
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    Here is the final report of an NSF conference on "Societal
    Implications of Nanoscience and Nanotechnology, NSF":
    http://itri.loyola.edu/nano/societalimpact/nanosi.pdf
    
    On pages 146-147 one finds:
    
    SOCIETAL IMPACTS OF NANOTECHNOLOGY IN EDUCATION AND MEDICINE
    V. Vogel, University of Washington
    
    ...
    
    Science fiction rather than reality: The popular press has often aired 
    heated discussions
    by the author Ray Kurzweil and others about the idea that it will soon be 
    possible to scan
    the human brain and essentially transfer its neural activity to a computer 
    designed to
    simulate billions and billions of human neurons (Kurzweil 1999). This 
    fantastic thought
    is based on a series of assumptions, some of which are reasonable 
    extrapolations of future
    technological abilities. Others, however, completely neglect how little is 
    still known
    about how the mind works. Imaging technology may indeed reach microscopic
    resolution, which may reveal individual synaptic contacts between nerve 
    cells. If Moore's
    law can be extrapolated, computers will achieve the memory capacity and 
    computing
    speed of the human brain by around the year 2020. Computer experts were 
    therefore
    quick to postulate that copying the 3D neural circuitry of the human brain 
    would become
    possible with these powerful computers and advanced imaging technologies. 
    Once this
    is achieved, they claim, it will be possible to simulate first the brain 
    and its function and
    eventually the state of the human mind, complete with its memories, 
    emotions and
    creativity. But it is important to remember that these nightmarish 
    scenarios are put
    forward without any real biological understanding of the brain. For 
    example, these
    scenarios rely on the assumption that the brain is nothing more than a 
    hard-wired neural
    network, and that knowledge of the 3D brain architecture would be 
    sufficient to assess its
    functional states. This may be the case for nematodes — the worm C. Elegans 
    has a
    nervous system consisting of 302 neurons whose connections are all known (White
    1986). But the brains of higher vertebrates have fundamentally different system
    architectures than computers. Furthermore, single neurons are highly 
    nonlinear systems.
    Single neurons in the cerebrum can make more than ten thousand connections 
    to other
    nerve cells. The picture gets even more complex with the recent findings 
    that higher
    vertebrate brains show plasticity. Plasticity is the ability of a system to 
    change its
    structure and/or function in response to injury, the environment and/or 
    other changing
    conditions (for further readings see Jacobs et al. 2000; Malinow, Mainen, 
    and Hayashi
    2000; Poldrack 2000; Simos et al. 2000; Tramontin and Brenowitz 2000). 
    Given this
    complexity of the brain, a scan of the brain will not allow a read-out of 
    the human brain's
    mind nor its memory. A century ago, society was embroiled in an almost parallel
    controversy as to whether the future was completely deterministic and 
    calculable based
    on Newtonian mechanics. It took the discovery of quantum mechanics to defy 
    the notion
    that our future is predictable.
    
    Nanobots are often on top of the list of nanotechnological creations that 
    cause deep
    concern to the public. Eric Drexler and followers postulate that it will 
    soon be possible to
    create nanoscale, addressable robots that have the ability to move in 
    space, recognize the
    environment and self-replicate (see e.g., Stix 1996 for a critical review). 
    Will it indeed be
    possible to create another form of life at the nanoscale? When it comes to the
    engineering of nanoscale machinery, nature is still far superior in its 
    ability to integrate
    synergistically operating nanoscale systems of high complexity. Yet, even 
    nature has not
    been able to engineer nanoscale creatures that combine all of the 
    above-mentioned
    attributes of nanobots. Viruses are amazing nanoscale systems, but even 
    they do not have
    the finesse of the hypothetical nanobots. Viruses are able to move and they 
    contain the
    genetic blueprint of themselves, yet they are not capable of 
    self-replication. Since they
    depend on the replication system and protein synthesis machinery of much larger
    organisms, namely micro-scale cells, they do not meet the definition of a 
    self-replicating
    system. While mankind is equipped with increasingly powerful tools to 
    manipulate living
    systems, we are not at the verge of creating herds of synthetic 
    self-replicating nanobots
    that will run out of control and threaten our lives. Future man-made 
    nanosystems will
    certainly be able to perform a variety of functions, but a robot that is 
    proficient in all
    three functions — movement in space, recognition of a chemically complex 
    environment
    and self-replication — will remain the fabric of dreams.
    
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