FC: Where have all the good names gone? Dupont grabs science.info

From: Declan McCullagh (declanat_private)
Date: Tue Aug 07 2001 - 04:32:36 PDT

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    [Preregistration ("sunrise period") lets trademark holders snatch up domain 
    names before the general public. Of course only firms that actually own 
    trademarks are supposed to be participating. I'll forward any response from 
    DuPont. --Declan]
    
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    From: adminat_private (admin)
    To: <karen.y.galbrithat_private>
    Subject: "SCIENCE" trademark
    Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 01:10:24 -0400
    
    Dear Ms. Galbrith:
    
    This message is to follow-up the telephone message.
    
    I am the director of Consumer.net and the owner the Science.net.  I am
    contacting you concerning your registration of the domain name SCIENCE.info
    which was registered during the Sunrise Period for trademark holders.
    
    In the application you submitted the trademark number is "0" and the date of
    trademark is "0200-01-03."  This information is clearly invalid.  I also
    searched the www.USPTO.gov trademark database and I was unable to find a
    trademark for "SCIENCE" registered to the du Pont Company.
    
    Please identify the trademark used to register SCIENCE.info during the .info
    Sunrise period.
    
    Thank You,
    
    Russ Smith
    
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    You searched for:
    "science.info"
    
    Domain Name:  SCIENCE.INFO
    Created On:  2001-AUG-02 18:22:06.0 UTC
    Expiration Date:  2006-AUG-02 18:22:06.0 UTC
    Trademark Name:  SCIENCE
    Trademark Date:  0200-01-03
    Trademark Country:  US
    Trademark Number:  00000000
    Sponsoring Registrar:  5035-CD
    Status:  NEW
    Status:  LOCKED
    Status:  OK
    Registrant ID:  C109666-LRMS
    Registrant Name:  Karen Galbraith
    Registrant Organization:  E I du Pont de Nemours and Company
    Registrant Street1:  Barley Mill Road, Suite P40-202a
    Registrant Street2:
    Registrant Street3:
    Registrant City:  Wilmington
    Registrant State/Province:  Delaware
    Registrant Postal Code:  19808
    Registrant Country:  US
    Registrant Phone:  +1.3029922941
    Registrant Fax:
    Registrant Email:  karen.y.galbrithat_private
    Admin ID:  C109667-LRMS
    Admin Name:  Karen Galbraith
    Admin Organization:  DUPONT DOW ELASTOMERS L.L.C.
    Admin Street1:  Barley Mill Road, Suite P40-202a
    Admin Street2:
    Admin Street3:
    Admin City:  New York
    Admin State/Province:
    Admin Postal Code:  19808
    Admin Country:  US
    Admin Phone:  +1.3029922941
    Admin Email:  karen.y.galbrithat_private
    Billing ID:  C109667-LRMS
    Billing Name:  Karen Galbraith
    Billing Organization:  DUPONT DOW ELASTOMERS L.L.C.
    Billing Street1:  Barley Mill Road, Suite P40-202a
    Billing Street2:
    Billing Street3:
    Billing City:  New York
    Billing State/Province:
    Billing Postal Code:  19808
    Billing Country:  US
    Billing Phone:  +1.3029922941
    Billing Email:  karen.y.galbrithat_private
    Tech ID:  C109667-LRMS
    Tech Name:  Karen Galbraith
    Tech Organization:  DUPONT DOW ELASTOMERS L.L.C.
    Tech Street1:  Barley Mill Road, Suite P40-202a
    Tech Street2:
    Tech Street3:
    Tech City:  New York
    Tech State/Province:
    Tech Postal Code:  19808
    Tech Country:  US
    Tech Phone:  +1.3029922941
    Tech Email:  karen.y.galbrithat_private
    
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    From: adminat_private (admin)
    To: <declanat_private>
    Subject: RE: .info domains going to TM holders
    Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 23:20:43 -0400
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    the .info whois is running http://afilias.info.  I cannot find any good
    generic domains and sunrise is still running.
    
    
    
    privacy.info
    
    Trademark Name:  Unknown
    Trademark Date:  2040-01-02
    Trademark Country:  AL
    Trademark Number:  0
    
    consumer.info
    
    Trademark Name:  consumer
    Trademark Date:  1994-05-23
    Trademark Country:  KR
    Trademark Number:  40-1994-136112
    
    pets.info
    
    Trademark Name:  pets
    Trademark Date:  2000-03-05
    Trademark Country:  IL
    Trademark Number:  153278563
    
    movies.info
    
    Trademark Name:  MOVIES
    Trademark Date:  1983-07-04
    Trademark Country:  DE
    Trademark Number:  652325
    
    
    more posted on ICANN's board.
    
    http://forum.icann.org/cgi-bin/rpgmessage.cgi?newtldagmts;3B6F769A00000342
    
    
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: adminat_private [mailto:adminat_private]
    Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 12:43 AM
    To: declanat_private
    Subject: RE: .info domains going to TM holders
    
    
    The taken .info domains are queued up for the Sunrise period for
    Tucows only.  This means the list of (soon to be) taken domains
    under the .info Sunrise does not even included queued orders for
    all the other registrars in addition to Tucows.  Tucows is not
    taking landrush applications for these domains since there is no
    hope of the domains ever reaching the Landrush stage.
    
    Some domains already queued for Sunrise registration:
    "consumer.info", "privacy.info" "music.info" "pets.info"
    "movies.info."  I have checked only a very small sample but I would
    say very roughly 80% or more of good generic .info domains are
    already queued up for registration during Sunrise.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: adminat_private [mailto:adminat_private]
    Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 12:32 AM
    To: declanat_private
    Subject: .info domains going to TM holders
    
    
    Looks like there won't be many good .info domains left after the
    trademark holders get their pick  during the "Sunrise" period.
    There is no whois yet but initial registration applications are
    being accepted for the "Landrush" period.  When these initial
    registrations are made the response is "Domain Taken" if it was
    already registered under Sunrise.
    
    The first 2 I tried, "consumer.info" and "privacy.info" were
    already taken under Sunrise by owners of trademarks on "privacy"
    and "consumer."  Most likely the trademarks were for some type of
    artwork containing the word.  This loophole in the .info "Sunrise"
    rules approved by ICANN allows generic domains to be taken before
    the public has a chance.
    
    http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements/info/registry-agmt-appj-11may01.htm
    
    "In order for trademark and service mark owners to qualify to
    receive a registration during the Sunrise Period (a "Sunrise
    Registration"), the following information must be provided to
    Registry Operator: (i) the ASCII characters name of the trademark
    or service mark; (ii) the date the registration issued; (iii) the
    country of registration; and (iv) the registration number."
    
    The loophole is that trademarks are often not issues based on
    "ASCII characters name of the trademark or service mark" but are
    based on artwork that happens to contain a generic term.
    
    Russ Smith
    http://TheNic.com
    
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