FC: Transcript of Ashcroft-Mueller 9/17 remarks on wiretap bill

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Date: Tue Sep 18 2001 - 08:15:57 PDT

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    Attorney General John Ashcroft Remarks
    Press Briefing with FBI Director Robert Mueller
    FBI headquarters
    September 17, 2001
    
    ASHCROFT: The investigation into Tuesday's attack is still moving 
    vigorously. I want to express my appreciation to thousands of agents and 
    support staff of the Federal Bureau of Investigation who are literally 
    working 24 hours a day, seven days a week, following leads in the 
    investigation. Their work has been excellent. I join the American people in 
    thanking them for their dedication to the country.  A number of tips and 
    potential leads coming into the FBI have been very substantial. We've 
    received helpful leads from both the 1-800 number and the web site and are 
    grateful for the American people in their participation in this 
    investigation to date.
    To date, the hotline has received more than 7,700 phone calls, the web site 
    47,000 potential leads. Let me repeat, those two resources are important 
    for us and for the public. Any member of the public that has information 
    that may be helpful to the investigation, please call, 1-866-483-5137. The 
    toll free calling number is, 1-866-483-5137. Or you can reach at the 
    Internet, at www.ifbccfbi.gov.
    In an effort to assist the FBI with manpower, I have directed the 
    U.S.  Marshals Service to assign more than 300 deputy marshals to provide 
    needed assistance to FBI field offices.
    ASHCROFT: These deputy marshals will be assigned to the various locations 
    across the country to augment and enhance the ongoing investigation and the 
    responsibility we have.
    While the FBI has always had a law enforcement presence in the air, the 
    Department of Transportation has decided to expand our country's law 
    enforcement capacities in that respect. Each day, as flights increase, we 
    will be adding additional enforcement officials from the Department of 
    Justice as air marshals on planes in addition to the already heightened 
    security on the ground in airports. These additional law enforcement 
    officials from various federal agencies are being assigned to the FAA to 
    ensure aircraft passenger safety.
    Yesterday I met with several members of the House and Senate leadership, 
    including the leadership of the Intelligence and Judiciary Committees. FBI 
    Director Mueller and I discussed with them the current threat assessment, 
    including our believe that associates of the hijackers that have ties to 
    terrorist organizations may be a continuing presence in the United 
    States.  This threat assessment has helped us to identify several areas 
    where we should strengthen our laws to increase the ability of the 
    Department of Justice and its component agencies to identify, prevent and 
    punish terrorism.
    ASHCROFT: The meetings we had were very productive. And I'm optimistic that 
    we will be able to act quickly to provide law enforcement with the 
    additional tools that are necessary to fight terrorism. I was encouraged by 
    the members support and their pledge to work as members of the Congress 
    with the Department of Justice to move this agenda of anti-terrorism 
    legislation forward.
    In the next few days, we intend to finalize a package of legislative 
    measures that will be comprehensive. Areas covered include criminal 
    justice, immigration, intelligence gathering and financial 
    infrastructure.  While the final details are still being discussed, I can 
    highlight a few of the items that we will address in the proposal.
    Under intelligence gathering, we want to provide additional tools to 
    collect intelligence on terrorists, including expanded electronic 
    surveillance, search authority and the ability to identify, cease and 
    forfeit terrorist assets.
    Two specific changes we have proposed include: First, current law requires 
    us to obtain a wiretap for a phone number. It does not allow us to obtain a 
    wiretap authority for an individual. Well, with the advances in technology, 
    we need to make sure that our laws are also advancing. We're proposing that 
    we provide wiretaps so that you can assign the wiretap to the individual, 
    so that we can gain intelligence from individuals who use multiple 
    telephones and changing cellular phones that move around with 
    individuals.  ASHCROFT: You understand that assigning the authority only to 
    the hardware means that when a person changes hardware, we lose our 
    capacity to surveil.  And given the nature and availability of literally 
    disposable telephones in modern society, we need to be able to have the 
    court authority to monitor, not the phone, but the telephone communications 
    of a person and to have that authority stay with the person.
    Second, current law requires that we obtain a separate wiretap in each 
    jurisdiction of the country where an investigation is being pursued. We 
    would like to change the law so that one wiretap approval can be obtained 
    for all jurisdictions working on an investigation, particularly given the 
    mobility of individuals and the capacity of individuals who are mobile to 
    communicate. This is a reasonable upgrade in our opportunity to help us 
    curtail and combat the threat.
    I want to assure you that in our effort to make sure that law enforcement 
    can gain the intelligence that it needs in order to protect America, we are 
    also mindful of our responsibility to protect the rights and privacy of 
    Americans.
    Within the area of criminal justice, we want to make sure that our laws 
    convey the seriousness of the crime of terrorism.  ASHCROFT: First, we want 
    to eliminate the statute of limitations for prosecution of terrorism 
    crimes. Second, we feel it is imperative to make sure that terrorism is 
    made the same kind of priority that we would be able to fight with the same 
    kind of integrity and equally strong tools that other crimes are subjected to.
    For example, we are identifying instances where the law currently makes it 
    easier to prosecute drug trafficking and organized crime or espionage than 
    it is to prosecute terrorism. If terrorism has not had a priority in the 
    criminal justice system previously, it's time for us to understand that it 
    needs to be a priority in the criminal justice system now. Let me give you 
    two examples we have for increasing the penalties and elevating our 
    capacity to deal with terrorism.
    A person who harbors a person involved in espionage is subject to stiffer 
    penalties than a person who harbors an individual involved in terrorism. We 
    think this reflects an inadequate response to the kind of threat that 
    terrorism poses to our culture.
    Within financial infrastructure, it is important to have an understanding 
    in our laws of the result of offering financial support to a 
    terrorist.  Understanding will not only give us the ability to adequately 
    punish those who assist terrorists, but also move toward dismantling the 
    infrastructure of terrorist organizations.
    We are proposing making providing material support or resources to a 
    terrorist organization an offense that would enable us to prosecute someone 
    under the money laundering statutes.
    ASHCROFT: Now, we will be working diligently over the next day or maybe two 
    to finalize this comprehensive proposal, and we will call upon the Congress 
    of the United States to enact these important antiterrorism measures this 
    week. We need these tools to fight the terrorism threat which exists in the 
    United States, and we must meet that growing threat.  Now, I call upon 
    Director Mueller for remarks.
    MUELLER: Good afternoon.
    Before I spend a moment discussing the current investigation, I want to 
    talk briefly about another area of the FBI's responsibilities, and that 
    relates to civil rights.
    Since the horrific attacks on September 11, dozens of retaliatory hate 
    crimes have been directed at members of the Arab-American community, 
    including assaults, arson, threatening communications and two possibly-and 
    I say "possibly"-ethnically motivated murders. Many of these criminal acts 
    have been directed at Muslim houses of worship and at Muslim community centers.
    I want to make it very clear: Vigilante attacks and threats against 
    Arab-Americans will not be tolerated. We are all saddened by the recent 
    acts of terrorism against our nation. Such acts of retaliation violate 
    federal law and, more particularly, run counter to the very principles of 
    equality and freedom upon which our nation is founded.  MUELLER: The FBI 
    and the Department of Justice are committed to aggressively investigating 
    and prosecuting violations of the federal hate crime laws. We, to date, 
    have initiated 40 hate crimes investigations, involving reported attacks on 
    Arab American citizens and institutions. And we are working with the 
    Department of Justice to review other incidents to see if federal 
    violations have taken place. I might also add that the FBI is reaching out 
    to leaders of the Arab American community in each of our 56 field offices 
    across the country.
    One another note before we discuss briefly this investigation. I want to 
    announce that the FBI is again calling upon the support and assistance of 
    the American people. We are actively seeking and recruiting 
    English-speaking individuals with a professional level of proficiency in 
    Arabic and Farsi.
    Those who would wish to join must be American citizens who have been 
    permanent residents of the United States for at least three of the last 
    five years. Each of these individuals who would seek to be employed by the 
    FBI will be evaluated based on experience and education, and must pass a 
    thorough background investigation and a language proficiency 
    examination.  We ask that anyone who is interested in this and has the 
    proficiency to call 1-866-483-5137, and let me repeat that: 1-866-483-5137. 
    Call that number or check the FBI website at www.fbi.gov.  MUELLER: Now, 
    turning to the ongoing investigation, I'll say that we now have 500 
    personnel here in FBI headquarters, representative of 32 agencies, federal, 
    state and local, working 24 hours a day coordinating the investigation 
    across the country, and I should say also internationally, because we have 
    more than 30 FBI legat offices across the world involved in the investigation.
    The AG-attorney general-already mentioned that we've had 47,000 Internet 
    tips. Our hotline has produced 7,800 tips. In addition to that, we've had 
    in excess of 26,000 leads generated through the various field offices.  I 
    might finish up by saying that we have, in the course of questioning a 
    number of individuals throughout the country, we have 49 individuals who 
    are currently being detained by the Immigration Service because of some 
    concerns about the status of those individuals in the country.  And with 
    that, I think the attorney general and I would be happy to answer questions.
    QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE) is that why you're looking for people who speak Arabic 
    and Farsi?
    MUELLER: We have had a language shortage for a period of time. I don't 
    think it would be just the FBI; I think it's a number of federal 
    agencies.  And we feel at this point in time we can use the additional 
    manpower helping us with the language issues.
    QUESTION: Director, how many people have you arrested on material witness 
    lines or otherwise?
    MUELLER: I cannot and will not give you the total numbers on material 
    witness warrants. Suffice it to say that there are a number of material 
    witness warrants that have been issued. They are sealed in most cases, and 
    I cannot give you direct numbers.
    QUESTION: Director, why can't you give us those direct numbers?
    MUELLER: They're under seal. A number of the warrants are under 
    seal.  QUESTION: Could you at least characterize the level of cooperation 
    at this point from the people that you've detained and also the people who 
    are in INS custody, if you're talking to them and if they've been providing 
    valuable information?
    MUELLER: Well, it's hard to generalize. There are individuals cooperating, 
    yes. There are a number of individuals that are not cooperating.  Next 
    question? Yes, sir?
    QUESTION: Are any of you aware of reports that there have been names on 
    watch lists in which there have been gaps in time before CIA information is 
    passed along to the FAA or the FBI or the INS? Could you talk a little bit 
    about how that process works and what is an acceptable amount of time 
    before the word gets to these various security agencies?  MUELLER: Well, I 
    know there is talk of one incident in which individuals have come into the 
    country and subsequent to their arrival in the country, they are put on a 
    watch list. And when we're talking about a watch list, in this 
    circumstance, we're talking about the watch list at the borders, so that 
    somebody seeking to gain entry to the United States goes through 
    immigration, and the name pops up.
    There is an incident where a name had been passed on, and the person was 
    already in the country, and the FBI sought to find that individual or 
    individuals. One finds that when they fill out the cards at the border, 
    they can put down "Marriott, New York City." And as everybody knows, there 
    are a number of Marriotts in New York City-or Sheraton, Detroit or Los Angeles.
    And when we're passed a name and required to find the individual and we 
    have no identify data other than a hotel or motel, we do the obvious thing 
    and go to either Marriott or Sheraton or the other hotel chain and have 
    them run all the hotels in that vicinity. But it is very difficult quite 
    often to find somebody once they're in the country.  Yes, sir?
    QUESTION: Just a follow-up to that. Were warning signs missed that might 
    have played a part in this, not only in San Diego, but also in Minnesota in 
    the weeks before the attacks?
    MUELLER: There were no warning signs that I'm aware of that would indicate 
    this type of operation in the country.
    Yes?
    QUESTION: We're hearing a number of complaints from the Arab American 
    community that the FBI is targeting people, questioning people based solely 
    on their ethnic background. Can you address that?  MUELLER: Absolutely. And 
    thank you for raising that. If that is a perception out there, I would like 
    to disspell it.
    MUELLER: It is wrong. When we seek to interview and question an individual, 
    we are doing so based on predications that the individual may have 
    information relating to the acts that took place last week. We do not, have 
    not, will not target people based solely on their ethnicity, period, point 
    blank.
    Yes, ma'am?
    QUESTION: Could you elaborate on what specific change there was or 
    technical capabilities will be necessary to tap and monitor disposal (OFF-MIKE)
    MUELLER: Talking specifically about the telephones, as we mentioned, a 
    piece of legislation would enable us to obtain wiretap authority for an 
    individual regardless of-whether he buys a cell phone on day one and a week 
    later buys another cell phone with another number and moves from cell phone 
    to cell phone seeking to avoid interception. That's a key piece of 
    legislation that would be very helpful to us in monitoring conversations of 
    those we suspect or know to be terrorists.
    Yes, sir?
    QUESTION: Thank you. Where are these two murders that you think are 
    racially inspired?
    MUELLER: I'm not going to discuss any of the facts about that. As I said-I 
    said "possibly inspired."
    Thank you very much.
    
    
    
    
    
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