[On second reading, it's not entirely clear whether Chuck is blocking all mail from the Well and Politech himself or just encouraging everyone at Fleishman-Hillard to do so. In any case, it's a sad case of self-appointed, anti-spam vigilantes run amok... --Declan] --- >Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 23:22:09 -0700 >To: "Magner, Chuck" <magnercat_private> >From: Declan McCullagh <declanat_private> >Subject: Re: spam >Cc: "Mcclure, Marna" <mccluremat_private>, "Craven, Liz" ><cravenlat_private> > >Let's get the chronology straight: >1. Marna McClure, from Fleishman-Hillard, which bills itself as the >"leading" public relations consultancy in the U.S., subscribes to >Politech. My records show Marna joined in April 1998 or earlier. >2. Four years later, in April 2002, Marna wishes to unsubscribe. But she >either forgets what email address she used or can't figure out how to >unsubscribe -- even though clear instructions are on the Politech website. >3. Marna complains to me a few hours ago that Politech messages are "spam" >and threatens to report them as such. ("I will report this as spam if you >do not get me off your email list immediately.") This is the first time I >heard from her that she was having problems. >4. I take time out of my day (Politech is not a for-profit activity, just >a hobby) to check and see what email address she subscribed under and give >her the appropriate instructions to unsubscribe. >5. It looks like Marna changed her email address sometimes in the last >four years from Mccluremat_private to Mcclurem2at_private, >according to a directory of PR folks >(http://www.workinpr.com/industry/agency/pr_findbystate.asp). I'd guess >she was trying to unsubscribe her new address from Politech. > >Your response: On behalf of Fleishman-Hillard, you complain that, somehow, >Politech is "junk" and threaten to report me to the Net.spam.cops. > >You also say that you're blocking any mail from Politech to anyone else at >Fleishman-Hillard, even though many other folks at the company are >subscribers who presumably want to continue to receive messages. You say >that Fleishman-Hillard will, in spite, block *all* mail from well.com, >which is an Internet provider with (last I checked) over 10,000 >subscribers. Among those subscribers are hundreds of journalists with whom >Fleishman-Hillard presumably wants to communicate. > >Two questions for you, Chuck: You ever see that Saturday Night Live skit >where Jimmy Fallon plays "Nick Burns, Your Company's Computer Guy?" You >ever wonder why everyone in the company hates him so much? > >-Declan > >At 12:51 PM 4/9/2002 -0500, Magner, Chuck wrote: > >>Considering your inability to comprehend the amount of inconvenience you >>cause not only our users at the desktop by having to spend valuable work >>time deleting your unsolicited emails, but also our IT department by >>having to create filters to eliminate your junk. I have advised Ms >>Mcclure and everybody else in our company to report all unsolicted emails >>from you and those originating from well.com to; >> >>spamcop.net >> >>nofalsenegatives.stopspam.samspade.org blacklist >> >>http://mail-abuse.org >> >>Dorkslayers Zero Tolerance List http://www.dorkslayers.com/ >> >>Spam Prevention Early Warning System http://www.spews.org/ >> >>Spamhaus Block List http://www.spamhaus.org/ >> >>We will be notifying the business manager at Well: bizmgrat_private and >>the technical contact dnsat_private of your unsolicited spam activities. >>As well as sending snail mail to their address at; >> >> 22 Fourth Street, 16th Floor >> San Francisco, CA 94103 >> >> >> I consider it an honor and privilige to use all the technology tools >> available at making you go away, I will be contacting you personally as >> soon as possible. >> >> >> >> >>The purpose and intent of this email and any attachments are intended >>solely for the Addressee(s). 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