[Jamie is a longtime Politech subscriber who works for (some would say is the soul of) the Consumer Project on Technology, a Ralph Nader group that is not exactly opposed to government regulation. Previous Politech message: http://www.politechbot.com/p-04378.html --Declan] --- Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:44:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: FC: TRUSTe on spam and industry adopting best practices From: "James Love" <james.loveat_private> To: <declanat_private> Cc: <politechat_private>, <fmaierat_private> Declan, given the massive amount of spam I receive every day, I would have to say voluntary methods of regulating spam are a failure by any reasonable standard, and the only interesting debate is over what type of government regulation makes sense. In our opinion, a simple labeling requirement for unsolicited commerical spam is a no-brainer, if it is simple and if the requirements are implemented across borders. The reason there is no cross border cooperation on rules is both ideological and the result of lobbying by firms that dream the Internet will be a haven for self-regulation on other issues. Hence, we tolerate spam, to prevent cross border consumer protection measures from getting off the ground. Jamie -- James Love http://www.cptech.org mailto:james.loveat_private mobile +1.202.361.3040 --- Date: 28 Jan 2003 10:34:04 -0500 From: "John R Levine" <johnlat_private> To: "Declan McCullagh" <declanat_private> Subject: Re: FC: TRUSTe on spam and industry adopting best practices > TRUSTe encourages companies to look into approaches such our Trusted Sender > program, ... I am not a big fan of TRUSTe, since their web seal program is worthless (they'll certify anything so long as it's documented, and they don't discipline seal-holders who lie) but the trusted sender program looks surprisingly good. The sender promises that what they're sending isn't spam, for a reasonable definition of spam, then trusted sender then adds a crypto signature header that recipients can check. If they get complaints, they stop signing (with this last part being yet to be demonstrated, of course.) Ray Everett-Church of CPO and Alladvantage fame is involved and can tell you more, rayat_private Regards, John Levine, johnlat_private, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://iecc.com/johnl, Sewer Commissioner "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Like Politech? Make a donation here: http://www.politechbot.com/donate/ Recent CNET News.com articles: http://news.search.com/search?q=declan -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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