I've placed Todd's paper here: http://www.politechbot.com/docs/cloning.paper.021203.doc -Declan --- To: declanat_private cc: politechat_private Subject: Re: FC: House Judiciary committee votes on human cloning ban on Wed. In-reply-to: <5.1.1.6.0.20030211124620.02824e98at_private> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:46:47 -0800 From: John Gilmore <gnuat_private> What does cloning have to do with interstate commerce, Declan? Congress doesn't have the power to regulate medicine or research inside a single state. Congress is doing its usual unconstitutional idiocy here. I guess by sufficient repetition they have gotten the public used to the idea that every Congress and every Congressman is going to violate the Constitution dozens of times in every session. But it galls me; I think the document has some value still left in it, as a blueprint for a free society. John --- From: Todd Dipaola <TDipaolaat_private> To: "'declanat_private'" <declanat_private> Subject: RE: House Judiciary committee votes on human cloning ban on Wed. Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:21:30 -0800 Declan, I work for a foundation that advocates strongly for medical research and has been heavily involved in the debates on stem cells and therapeutic cloning. The information sent out earlier today was very misleading as to the effects of the Weldon bill on scientific research in this country. I have attached a side by side comparison of the Rep. Weldon's bill and the alternative bills/amendments proposed by the scientific community and patient advocates. It outlines the devastating effect of H.R. 534 legislation on scientific progress toward cures for the nearly 100 million Americans who suffer from devastating diseases and conditions, including juvenile diabetes, Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, cancer and spinal cord injury. You readers can learn more about the issue and why we can outlaw human cloning without impeding scientific research into lifesaving cures at http://www.camradvocacy.org/. Thank you, Todd Todd J. Dipaola Public Policy Associate Steven and Michele Kirsch Foundation "Effecting Change Through Strategic Giving and Advocacy" tdipaolaat_private www.kirschfoundation.org --- Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:13:25 -0500 From: Nick Bretagna <onemugat_private> Reply-To: afn41391at_private To: declanat_private Subject: Re: FC: House Judiciary committee votes on human cloning ban on Wed. This law serves no purpose. It will do nothing whatsoever to prevent -- or even slow -- actual human cloning. There were laws against transplantation experiments -- the result? The first transplants occurred in other nations. The same will happen in this case. As a result of this, though, it will just be about 5 to 10 years longer before the "average guy" gets any chance of actually taking advantage of whatever benefits this may well provide (the rich SOBS will just fly to wherever the cloning is being done and have whatever treatments come of it done...) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Like Politech? Make a donation here: http://www.politechbot.com/donate/ Recent CNET News.com articles: http://news.search.com/search?q=declan -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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