FC: More on House Judiciary voting today on human cloning ban

From: Declan McCullagh (declanat_private)
Date: Wed Feb 12 2003 - 07:56:37 PST

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    I've placed Todd's paper here:
    http://www.politechbot.com/docs/cloning.paper.021203.doc
    
    -Declan
    
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    To: declanat_private
    cc: politechat_private
    Subject: Re: FC: House Judiciary committee votes on human cloning ban on Wed.
    In-reply-to: <5.1.1.6.0.20030211124620.02824e98at_private>
    Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:46:47 -0800
    From: John Gilmore <gnuat_private>
    
    What does cloning have to do with interstate commerce, Declan?
    Congress doesn't have the power to regulate medicine or research
    inside a single state.
    
    Congress is doing its usual unconstitutional idiocy here.  I guess by
    sufficient repetition they have gotten the public used to the idea
    that every Congress and every Congressman is going to violate the
    Constitution dozens of times in every session.  But it galls me; I
    think the document has some value still left in it, as a blueprint
    for a free society.
    
             John
    
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    From: Todd Dipaola <TDipaolaat_private>
    To: "'declanat_private'" <declanat_private>
    Subject: RE: House Judiciary committee votes on human cloning ban on Wed.
    Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:21:30 -0800
    
    Declan,
    
    I work for a foundation that advocates strongly for medical research and has
    been heavily involved in the debates on stem cells and therapeutic cloning.
    The information sent out earlier today was very misleading as to the effects
    of the Weldon bill on scientific research in this country.
    
    I have attached a side by side comparison of the Rep. Weldon's bill and the
    alternative bills/amendments proposed by the scientific community and
    patient advocates. It outlines the devastating effect of H.R. 534
    legislation on scientific progress toward cures for the nearly 100 million
    Americans who suffer from devastating diseases and conditions, including
    juvenile diabetes, Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, cancer and
    spinal cord injury.
    
    You readers can learn more about the issue and why we can outlaw human
    cloning without impeding scientific research into lifesaving cures at
    http://www.camradvocacy.org/.
    
    Thank you,
    Todd
    
    Todd J. Dipaola
    Public Policy Associate
    Steven and Michele Kirsch Foundation
    "Effecting Change Through Strategic Giving and Advocacy"
    tdipaolaat_private
    www.kirschfoundation.org
    
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    Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:13:25 -0500
    From: Nick Bretagna <onemugat_private>
    Reply-To: afn41391at_private
    To: declanat_private
    Subject: Re: FC: House Judiciary committee votes on human cloning ban on Wed.
    
    This law serves no purpose.
    
    It will do nothing whatsoever to prevent -- or even slow  -- actual human 
    cloning. There were laws against transplantation experiments -- the result? 
    The first transplants occurred in other nations.
    
    The same will happen in this case. As a result of this, though, it will 
    just be about 5 to 10 years longer before the "average guy" gets any chance 
    of actually taking advantage of whatever benefits this may well provide 
    (the rich SOBS will just fly to wherever the cloning is being done and have 
    whatever treatments come of it done...)
    
    
    
    
    
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