[Politech] Two replies to Australia considers deleting info from gv't websites [fs]

From: Declan McCullagh (declan@private)
Date: Thu Apr 29 2004 - 21:16:19 PDT

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    Subject: Re: [Politech] Australian state considers deleting info from 
    gv't 	websites [fs]
    Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:24:32 +1000
    From: Roger Clarke <Roger.Clarke@private>
    To: Declan McCullagh <declan@private>
    CC: Red Wolf <redwolf@private>
    References: <408F2E93.6070508@private>
    Although I very much share Red Wolf's concerns about the Australian
    Govt, and to an only slightly lesser extent the NSW Govt, the
    sentence attributed to the Premier (Bob Carr) isn't actually all that
    >"If there is any way we can meet our counter terrorism demands and
    >objectives by tightening up, without infringing on the right of the
    >public to know and the efficiency that comes with that, then we'll look
    >at it," he said.
    In another report, in The Canberra Times of Sunday 25 April 2004:
    "NSW Police Minister John Watkins said a review of access to such
    information would be undertaken.  But balancing the right to the
    information with security would be difficult".
    Again, on face value, that's not an unreasonable statement.  (And all
    the more significant because NSW Police Ministers have always been of
    the extremist law-and-order style, and seldom say reasonable things).
    Roger Clarke              http://www.anu.edu.au/people/Roger.Clarke/
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    Visiting Professor in the Baker Cyberspace Law & Policy Centre, U.N.S.W
    Visiting Fellow in Computer Science, Australian National University
    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: RE: [Politech] Australian state considers deleting info from 
    gv't	websites [fs]
    Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:12:44 +1000
    From: Stephen Dawson <scdawson@hifi-writer.com>
    Reply-To: <scdawson@hifi-writer.com>
    To: Declan McCullagh <declan@private>
    Some background for those non-Australian readers who may be misled by Red
    Wolf's contribution:
     > Never mind that the supposed terrorism target is just another propaganda
     > campaign from the PM to scare people into voting for him, just like his
     > dodgy 'children overboard' scandal last time around and that the
     > information is freely available at any library.
     > <snipped>
     > The New South Wales Cabinet committee on counter terrorism will today
     > consider restricting the range of information available on government
     > websites.
     > <snipped>
     > Premier Bob Carr says the committee ...
    The PM (John Howard) is facing election later this year. He is head of the
    Australian Federal Government, and leader of the Liberal Party
    (conservative). Premier Carr is head of the New South Wales state
    government, and leader in that state of Australian Labor Party (relatively
    So the supposed would-be terrorist was arrested by the Feds, the opposition
    party State leader wants to take (probably useless) action. Doesn't seem too
    much like some election conspiracy.
    Stephen Dawson
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