[These are two threads that spilled over from Politech to an ICANN
mailing list. I've separated the two with asterisks. Thanks to Richard
for participating in them. --Declan]
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Subject: RE: [ga] Re: [Politech] ITU's Richard Hill on ICANN's $.75 fee
and Net governance
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:13:04 +0100
From: <richard.hill@private>
To: <hdierker2204@private>, <jwkckid1@private>, <declan@private>
CC: <ga@private>, <ross@private>
It is all rather complex. Full information can be found at:
http://www.itu.int/aboutitu/index.html
ITU-T is the former CCITT, which some might remember for, among other
things, modem standards, as in V.nn.
Within ITU-T work is organized in Study Groups which address broad
topics, see:
http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/studygroups/index.html
Substantive work is done by the membership, who input papers and agree
outputs (Recommendations).
Most ITU staff is located in Geneva, although we do have field offices.
tsbsg2@private is the mailing list for Study Group 2, of which I'm the
Secretary.
Best,
Richard
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Richard Hill
Counsellor, ITU-T SG2 and SG4
International Telecommunication Union
Place des Nations
CH-1211 Geneva 20
Switzerland
tel: +41 22 730 5887
FAX: +41 22 730 5853
Email: richard.hill@private
Study Group 2 email: tsbsg2@private
Study Group 4 email: tsbsg4@private
-----Original Message-----
*From:* Hugh Dierker [mailto:hdierker2204@private]
*Sent:* Sunday, 09 January, 2005 20:16
*To:* Hill, Richard; jwkckid1@private; declan@private
*Cc:* ga@private; ross@private
*Subject:* RE: [ga] Re: [Politech] ITU's Richard Hill on ICANN's
$.75 fee and Net governance
Perhaps Mr. Hill you could break all this down for us so we get a
real idea of functioning structure of your group(s). As in what is
an ITU-T, or an SG2 or 4 or a tsbg2 and What is the office in Geneva
versus your home country?
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [ga] Re: [Politech] ITU's Richard Hill on ICANN's $.75 fee
and Net governance
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 13:03:45 +0100
From: <richard.hill@private>
To: <hdierker2204@private>, <jwkckid1@private>, <declan@private>
CC: <ga@private>, <ross@private>
ITU members, whether governments or private sector, voluntarity pay fees
to ITU. Each Member State freely chooses the amount to pay. The level
of fees for Sector Members is set by the Plenipotentiary conference.
The way the ITU budget is spent (priorities, programs, etc.) is
determined at the overall level by Plenipoteniary (every 4 years) and in
more detail by Council (every 2 years).
Best,
Richard
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Richard Hill
Counsellor, ITU-T SG2 and SG4
International Telecommunication Union
Place des Nations
CH-1211 Geneva 20
Switzerland
tel: +41 22 730 5887
FAX: +41 22 730 5853
Email: richard.hill@private
Study Group 2 email: tsbsg2@private
Study Group 4 email: tsbsg4@private
-----Original Message-----
*From:* Hugh Dierker [mailto:hdierker2204@private]
*Sent:* Saturday, 08 January, 2005 18:01
*To:* Jeff Williams; Declan McCullagh
*Cc:* Hill, Richard; General Assembly of the DNSO; Ross Wm. Rader
*Subject:* Re: [ga] Re: [Politech] ITU's Richard Hill on ICANN's
$.75 fee and Net governance
I am pretty amazed here at the blazen contempt by omission of users.
Richard Hill should look up "resting on Laurels" in one of his
American Heritage books (which is anything but). Taxation is the
taking from an individual to support the infrastructure of those in
power. Now in democracy we can change those in power, or limit the
taxation or what it is spent on. In the ITU, UN or ICANN monolithic
infrastructures we have no such authority. They have placed
themselves in benevolent big brother status for the good of us
neanderthals that only carry degrees in arcane matters and life
experience.
As I told an IT worker during a think break, all of your knowledge
does little good if the end user is left out of the loop. What makes
perfect sense to a designer may have no application to a user. I
doubt large pots of frijoles make much sense to a Norwegian, or our
Asian rice pot to and Conglolese. Similarly 75 cents don't make
sense to Joe but might to Joe Mega International Corp. I don't like
this one bit but until it makes my life worse or hurts me in my
wallet I think I will just comment on it like the rest of you.
Eric
*/Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@private>/* wrote:
Declan, Ricahard and all,
Nice try to deflect here Richard. What you seem to fail to
mention is that
not any or all stakeholders have equal status or can vote on
issues in
the ITU and the ITU charges for access to many/most of it's public
interests documents on it's web site.... Pot-Kettle black if you
ask me...
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