Previous Politech message: http://www.politechbot.com/2005/05/10/xeni-jardin-on/ -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Politech] Xeni Jardin on Zabasearch: Your identity, open to all [priv] Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 22:05:22 -0400 From: Lizard <lizard@private> To: Declan McCullagh <declan@private> References: <42811D03.7020202@private> Can I be the 10 millionth person to note that the overlap between people opposed to things like Zabasearch and people who ritually quote "Information wants to be free" is much larger than would logically follow? Or is it "Other people's information wants to be free. My information wants to be locked in the attic."? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Politech] Xeni Jardin on Zabasearch: Your identity, open to all [priv] Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 18:22:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Miro Visic <visic@private> Reply-To: Miro Visic <visic@private> To: Declan McCullagh <declan@private>, politech@private Some time ago I started advising everyone to go ahead and fill out all the forms - with wrong data. That's the best way to defeat the concept of totalitarian society that's taking hold in the US of A . When they [the Gestapo-Corporations] realize that nobody would pay $$$ for wrong personal data -- they will reconsider if that makes a good sense to invest in such "business"... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Politech] Xeni Jardin on Zabasearch: Your identity,open to all [priv] Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 15:28:21 -0700 From: Jack <canaryis@private> To: Declan McCullagh <declan@private> References: <42811D03.7020202@private> Some of the information on Zabasearch comes from AOL. Here is a comment from a reader that I just posted on my website www.howtobeinvisible.com: Alan NY 40: [5-10] "Re ZabaSearch you may want to alert your readers that one place Zabasearch is getting their info from is AOL. I signed up to AOL with a very unique spelling for my last name (It's the only place I used that spelling) and it showed up on Zabasearch with the adress and DOB I used. Same thing happened for a very close friend." JJ Luna -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Politech] Xeni Jardin on Zabasearch: Your identity, open to all [priv] Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 21:33:26 -0400 From: Nancy Kramer <nekramer@private> To: Declan McCullagh <declan@private> References: <42811D03.7020202@private> Hello Declan, I don't think this database is so big and bad. I have a listed home phone number, own the home I live in with my husband and have lived there for over ten years. I own many domains where my contact information is listed with my home address and phone number. I want people to find me because I do some consulting and use my home number. Guess what? I am not in their database at all even when I narrowed it by state. Nancy E. Kramer is my married name and I have had that name and lived in Maryland for over 25 years under that name. I do not exist in their database. Even tried it without the middle initial, still no listing. There is another Nancy E. Kramer who lives in Baltimore and who is not me. I admit my last name is common but these guys do not even have a copy of a current phone book I guess. I have never had a post office box, never had an unlisted phone number, have never done anything to protect my privacy. I do not exist in this database. That is kind of scary to me. Do you think if I emailed them my contact info they would put it in? I personally don't want people thinking that I try to hide my identity because I don't. Probably they just don't have a very good database. Believe me the mass mailers and telephone solicitors have no problems finding me. I chose not to opt out of telephone soliciting because I do not believe in that type of government regulation ie the do not call list. Realize that some of us want to be found but it appears cannot be found in this database. Personally I think all those articles are just brilliant PR to create buzz for a run of the mill people search site that wants to get a following so they can charge for information that you can probably get for free and of better quality at most libraries and by dialing information although information might cost you a little money. At least information is current and correct and I can probably be found in it. Regards, Nancy Kramer -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Politech] Xeni Jardin on Zabasearch: Your identity, open to all [priv] Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 19:49:34 -0700 From: Da'ud X Mohammed <webmaster@private> Organization: Oregon Coast News Signal To: Declan McCullagh <declan@private> References: <42811D03.7020202@private> http://www.politechbot.com/2005/05/10/xeni-jardin-on/ Xeni Jardin on Zabasearch: Your identity, open to all Hullo Declan, Re: information marketplace The best way to solve the personal information made public problem is to be sure the government doesn't seek it out in the first place, and that it not be made public or sold for commercial purposes without payment (as permission) from the person who the information is about. For the congress to write such protections for We the People, now that would be a real act of patriotism! Thanks With peace dxm _______________________________________________ Politech mailing list Archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ Moderated by Declan McCullagh (http://www.mccullagh.org/)
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