Previous Politech message: http://www.politechbot.com/2005/09/10/federal-dna-database/ -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: [Politech] Federal DNA database of anyone detained by police advances in Senate [priv] Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:02:43 -0400 From: Richard M. Smith <rms@private> To: 'Declan McCullagh' <declan@private>, <chip.pitts@private> Hi, Here is another method that the police have used to collected a DNA sample in the past: Seattle Police Trick Gets Judge's Approval http://www.komotv.com/stories/28382.htm King County Superior Court Judge Sharon Armstrong ruled that police did not violate John Athan's privacy or other rights by sending the New Jersey man a phony letter saying he was eligible for money in a class-action lawsuit over parking tickets. Athan responded to the letter -- and licked an envelope, leaving saliva that provided his DNA. Perhaps the IRS has already built a DNA database from our mailed in tax returns. ;-) Richard M. Smith http://www.ComputerBytesMan.com -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: [Politech] Federal DNA database of anyone detained by policeadvances in Senate [priv] Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:54:51 -0600 From: Jerome Borden <jcborden@private> Reply-To: jcborden@private To: Declan McCullagh <declan@private> Declan, Interesting. First, it would put DNA on a par with finger prints which are routinely taken from all detainees. This is why INS/ICE takes electronic finger prints of anyone dealing with their system. Thus, my wife had to get records from an incident that happened 17 years ago that a DA had declined to file. The prints are still in NCIC and California AG files but not in the jurisdiction that made the arrest. (raucous party that night). Under the proposed law, they would have swabbed her cheek and listed the DNA profile. Another group that has been subject to DNA recording are all members of the military services. That way, they figure that there will be no more "Unknown Soldiers". Yours Truly, Jerome C. Borden Layton, UT (where they go into record keeping in a very big way) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Politech] Federal DNA database of anyone detained by police advances in Senate [priv] Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:28:33 -0400 From: George Ellenburg <george@private> To: Declan McCullagh <declan@private> References: <4323268C.1060105@private> U.S., meet Gattica. Gattica, meet the United States of America. On Sep 10, 2005, at 2:31 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote: > The amendment, introduced by Senator John Cornyn (R-TX), on behalf of > Senator Jon Kyl (R-AZ), would create a national registry of DNA taken > from any person who has been detained by the police, even if the > person > is not arrested or convicted. _______________________________________________ Politech mailing list Archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ Moderated by Declan McCullagh (http://www.mccullagh.org/)
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